Thanks Install filter per MFG instructions, or at the very least, using bungee cords, strap that sucker down. Ive been using one for several years, paired with a cyclone lid and a aluminum trashcan. The cyclone does the bulk of the heavy lifting, and very little seems to get through to the filters.
I did give them a call and have a filter on order. Our HOA isn't overbearing, and has been flexible. Very happy with my set-up. I should have gotten one of these before starting my current project, lots of sweeping and vacuuming.
I can't comment on the DC itself, I went another route on that.
For the money, I dont think I could beat it.
I was wonder how I would connect my 5 basic machines and one connection for my portable tools? Negative Pressure how any ideas on boosting performance? But beside that confusion, their site lists both of those as being 1550cfm? My overhead hose reel, which I will have go to back in this blog itself to see how long ago I installed it, but probably at least 8, but maybe as much as 10 years ago. Maybe I can arrange some things in the basement and run piping into the shop.
Violations to rule 1 including crude jokes, innuendo, sexist remarks, politics, or hate speech may result in an immediate ban. The process? It work, too. The two biggest improvements to my system (which was just cloth bags top and bottom) were: So can we see some pics of the bag holder you're using?
Otherwize the Wynn filter will not fasten down. IF your filter does not have gasket material on the bottom, obtain some foam weatherstrip material and attach it. I also replaced the casters as one developed a flat spot and wouldnt roll. Makes sense to me. While it didnt catch all the sawdust I believe that is due to the Ryobi saw design rather than a lack of suction. I bought a HF dust collector about 5 years ago as an inexpensive alternative and it worked fairly well, I retrofitted with a cyclone and a pleated filter, worked better yet. It will behave like a totally different machine! I scoured the internet, home stores and woodworking shops for a full sized collector with at least a 2HP motor with 650 CFM suction and a 5-micron bag. But those same threads say that the Wynn filters are a PITA to clean. I use PVC and get everything from a home center.
When I finally realized that wood dust was overtaking my home work shop and was becoming a health hazard I got serious and researched dust control and dust hazards. what size PVC did you run? If you have any further questions, please chat, email, or contact Customer Service at 1-855-253-0822. This model is no longer available, and Wynn has gotten expensive recently. Sadly this turned out to be problematic as the first box of Ferrules I bought, advertised for 3/8" air hose do not actually fit 3/8" air hose, at least not 3/8" rubber air hose that has a measured O.D. I really don't know how it compares, I wasn't interested in using PVC at all and never shopped it. Of course a good face mask it a good idea. That modification made it very loud!!! So I grabbed one, and I must say, I am impressed with the apparent build quality, not to mention the fit, and overall size of this thing. Please submit links to how-to pages and videos, pictures of beautiful and amazing pieces you made for us to admire, or help you finish. I propped the base on sleepers to attach the casters. Thanks for reading.
The $150 is a better deal,I have three already 2 outside to cut down on noise and save on floor space,I find it easier and cheaper to have several HF DC units than to run a bunch of ducting. Btw, given the collector happens to be on an outside area, the exhaust hose simply blows free I dont have it running into the filter bags. Seems like someone was asking for an alternative to a Wynn cartridge upgrade, According to Paul on another forum, you can use a Donaldson truck filter number P181099 on your HF dust collector. Rotate the impeller several times insuring no operational interference.. .5 micron Wynn 35a spun bond poly (washable) cartridge filter. My old 35A uses tiny turnbuckles on the inside to hold it in place. Thank you, Hi William. Yep. So now the cartridge filter is installed. I don't know about you but I like my children roasted to a nice maple color. I usually smack the bag with a stick when the unit is powering down. I am looking to save space, so instead of staying with my 55 gallon Thien separator, I am going to go with a Thein baffle in the separator ring of the dust collector. With your membership you will also receive discounts on products and hours of Premium video content. I can't comment on the DC itself, I went another route on that. I linked the Wynn clips. Using a Dylos and sanding MDF panels they tested 8 Units 5 bag and 3 canister DCs. Paul-WWGOA, I have one and am assembling my new shop in the basement. Why wouldn't that work on the HF?One more question and them I think I have another project to do, but does this baffle restrict the air flow in any way, if so I'd be afraid that would not be good for the DC unit? I must say though, if you already have a Harbor Freight 2HP dust collector, GET THIS IMPELLER AND DO THE SWAP! https://wynnenv.com/products-page/woodworking-filter-pricing/35a274nano-cartridge-kit/. I will admit I was skeptical after placing the order, but was pleasantly surprised when I opened the box to my new machine. You mentioned a ring, but can't picture how you're holding it up in thereThanks! These can go away now. I still use box fans with furnace filters for ambient dust, but the decrease in dust is noticeable. I did not assemble it as instructed though. You can't buy it or rush it, you need to earn it, slowly, over time. Coat the inside of the bore and keyway of the new impeller with a light oil. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Costly, but after building a separator from a wok I have a great vacuum that doesnt put any dust into the air.
I normally build a tent in the shop out of thin painters plastic, but inevitably lacquer dust gets out and coats everything. In fact their heavy duty steel cyclone has 5" in and 6" out, which they said is ideal. With a side flip, making a shorter Thien trash can separator. Press J to jump to the feed. Hi Corky.
I was able to pick up the pipe used, so for cost reasons, I can understand if you'd go plastic. This is after all my space, I could have simply jettisoned the unwelcome intrusions to my space, but I didn't. All the other bag units were in between (most of which were rated excellent). When we were installing my 5 hp clearview I wanted to test out the blower before I installed it 10 high. Central Machinery (Harbor Freight) 2 HP dust collector upgrades. I have not done it and (I have not read much about it) I'm not sure what the "internal" baffle does. Size up, and select the proper drill bit for drilling metal. Time to replace the old bag filter on my Delta Dust collector, can't hardly get it clean and the drop in airflow sucks :dash2: Has anyone out there used the Wynn Environmental 35A conversion to put a canister filter on their machine? I was thinking about doing an internal Thien baffle in my HF 2HP DC. There are 2 that I know of, one from Rikon that has been next to impossible to get, and when available costs almost as much as the dust collector, and one from Wen, the 3403-22 Turbofan. I have tried it with blast gates open to 3 different tools, table saw, jointer while using my router table and it still pulled the vast majority of my dust I got the 35B filter so that I could remove the top for cleaning without having to remove the filter from the HF unit. It costs $17 more but it's worth the tiny extra cost to not have to remove the filter. I'm very happy with the performance of the HF unit. The winner was the Jet 5M bag followed by the General International canister.
It now has enough suction it can pick up lead bird shot. They have flex hose and blast gates, but if you want to set up a permanent duct system youll need to get some steel ducts or PVC.
If you keep the duct runs short, run hard pipe to as close to the tool as possible, this machine should work well in a small shop. Artistic wood studio custom wood furniture artisticwoodstudio.com, I finally used mine for the first time Saturday! Replace the tiny stock impeller with an impeller that is basically the biggest impeller I can fit in the housing. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, https://www.woodmagazine.com/workshop/dust-collection?page=1, http://forums.finewoodworking.com/fer-tools-and-machinery/dust-collector-reviews, https://www.woodmagazine.com/review/dust-collection/dust-collectors/grizzly-dust-collector, http://www.finewoodworking.com/2012/12/17/all-about-dust-collection, David Falkner - Woodworking YouTube channel, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. My DC is a true 3HP with a monster impeller and 6" inlet.
As the motor was powering down I would slap the bag with both hands and you could see the dust falling into the lower bag, that cleans the 5 micron filter. So without the baffle, I can watch a little tornado going in the bottom of my collector bag. That's why soon many people add a pre-separator of some type. OK, I answered my own question, it won't fit. I too, have a Harbor Freight Dust collector. And because of the lack of back pressure better suction. Should have it within a week.
3) A Jet 1-1/2 hp with a canister on top. Ive been pretty satisfied with mine as well. 5 dust collector piping? The three I have have been great for a number of years I highly recommend them. I've searched here and read a lot of threads about using the Wynn 35A and 35BA canisters. This detail was unexpected considering the bargain-basement price. Is it cheaper than 6 pvc? I have noticed over the years that foreign countries write their instructions in poor English or hard to understand English. I do plan, however, to add a cyclonic separator to keep the chips from clogging the 5-micron filter and plastic bag.
Their face has probably turned that same color a few times also! The noise was an ear piercing scream like an air raid siren. I 'm just a retired at-home woodworker, like most of us, but do several furniture making project a year, so the DC and filter get plenty of use. Not sure where you'd add another one to the mix. It was pretty amazing the stuff the engineers left out when describing procedures.
:). Attach new ducting, or adapter to make it work with existing ducting. It was safely shipped with fitted Styrofoam packaging, and each part was protected from the other by cardboard or wrap.
I had a coupon for 20% off and then caught it on sale so I ended up with $117 in it. And run the puller pressure screw in, making adjustments to your puller to be sure you get a succesful pull all the way until the impeller comes off. If this blower was outside everyone within a mile would be complaining! I built a thein type primary collector. Have they upgraded the motor since this article was written? With the baffle it should hardly move down there, so I've been told. I bought this same unit about 3 years ago. It is always hard to justify the cost of a tool that just sits around collecting dust (thats a joke), especially when I still need other tools for actually making things! A $13 wireless controller and 2 $7 remote controls. In my area (Oregon) the HF DC is always $199 and they have 20% off coupons close to every week that brings them down to the $160 range. WoodWorkers Guild of America Video Membership, Wed love to have you be a part of our community. There is so much volume of air going through that dust collector a canister filter would plug up in minutes. Very tiny beads that i used to make a dead blow turned mallet. That seems like a lot of money. Come join the discussion about different types of routing and routers, shop safety, finishing, woodworking related topics, styles, tools, scales, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more!
The thing works great. Align the new impeller bore / keyway to the key / shaft, and wiggle it a bit until it just barely starts to go in. I started my 30+ year career as a tech writer by re-writing instructions and specifications written in "Japlish." The remote control for the DC system arrived today. Thank you all for your input. CFM ratings from many vendors are based on theoretical numbers, or measured right at the inlet. I always knew the factory impeller was garbage and massively undersized, but the only alternative I knew of, the Rikon impeller was expensive, and constantly unavailable. My DC is a true 3HP with a monster impeller and 6" inlet. Clean it on the machine, shake the tar out of the machine and get back to it. That's what we called the written in Japanese, translated in Japan english version.
This will upgrade the inlet flange to 6" allowing connection of course to a 6" ducting system. 2007-2014 David B. Hostetler. The cap to the fan housing has a fitted gasket that makes the machine more efficient. At the time I researched it, the wisdom was that 5" was sufficient for flow assuming it's hard pipe with gradual bends and no hard elbows. Boy I hate cleaning that filter! For now I will use a 6x4x4 splitter, but long term idea is to rip out the dual 4" system, and run a single 6" main, and reduce to 4" or 2.5" as close to the tool as possible. All rights reserved.. Picture Window theme. That said, I doubt that the fine dust or dry sawdust that I create would slow down enough to create a clog even if I used 12 pipe! I did upgrade it to a pleated cartridge filter for better dust control. Or is their description a little less than honest? Keep it on either for now. When the house is finished I will install it in my workshop with a manifold to several machines. In fact their heavy duty steel cyclone has 5" in and 6" out, which they said is ideal. Freight vacuum. There were enough pan-head screws included, however, so I decided to use these instead. But at least they are sorted now. One more question and them I think I have another project to do, but does this baffle restrict the air flow in any way, if so I'd be afraid that would not be good for the DC unit?
Budget doesn't allow anything more expensive.
May 30, 2012 By Seth Keller & filed under Buying Advice, Product Review. http://www.jpthien.com/smf/index.php?topic=145.0. JavaScript is disabled. pressure. I didnt realize that the previous comment was giving you a direct link to Wynns site.
FWIW, I found this sifting thru some old stuff.
It goes below the separator ring. We are convinced you will enjoy the benefits of becoming a member and having access to the best instructional how to videos and professional tips. At the time I researched it, the wisdom was that 5" was sufficient for flow assuming it's hard pipe with gradual bends and no hard elbows. I see how Jason in his video has his filter attached. Instead of a bag, replace it with a Wynn 35A nano canister filter. This is a counter threaded screw so righty loosey here! It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. We would like to offer you a special promotion for your first-year membership.
As you know from my Workshop page I own a Harbor Freight 2HP dust collector that is fitted with a .5 micron Wynn Environmental washable filter, which in over 10 years has never needed to be washed due to my Thien cyclone. I'll share my experience installing it after it gets here. My last few years of dust collection experience and research tell me that reference is not correct. The only down side is. Using a rubber mallet, and a piece of scrap wood as a striking surface, drive the new impeller onto the shaft, striking the wood, and using the wood to push the impeller hub, until the impeller is fully seated. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. JavaScript is disabled. I know this is an old post. In lieu of the Wynn filter, the Donaldson P181038 filter is reported to be a direct equivalent to the Wynn 35a with a much lower price tag. Starting with the impeller and flange upgrade. Just want to get a few opinions before I drop that much on a filter . The difference was night and day better than the bag. I need to research the threads on DC systems, particularly the HF one. I was able to pick up the pipe used, so for cost reasons, I can understand if you'd go plastic. More expensive, but the paddle, plus a few jolts to get the cleaned out sawdust into the bag, seems like a better setup than the Wynn.
I once again have a full set of Snap On deep well 3/8" drive metric sockets, and a full set of Snap On metric combination wrenches. IF it stays on the impeller housing, just leave it there. When I bought the Oneida cyclone I talked to them about it and they verified this was good. Most of the discussion about this that I have seen, seems contrary to what would be expected. It will increase the suction and is better for your health. Using center punch, and supported on an anvil of some sort like a machinists vice, dimple each screw hole location in the new flange, This will keep your drill bit from walking off.
I have one with 70 pvc and a lot of blastgates running a whole shop. i highly recommend the upgrade. Hi, Bryan. Woodworkers Guild of America Video Membership. Thanks for the explanations. I can now start the DC system from every tool to which it's connected. If you wear it. Using a 5mm allen wrench, loosen and remove the retaining screw turning clockwise. The Rikon P60-200-22 impeller seems to be the recommended replacement, but it appears to no longer be available.
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