I own both Kreg and HF tools. I dont have any experience with the HF F style clamps I can admit to buying things at the HF stores though! Due to the overwhelming amount of response to the Make The Trade Campaign and shipping challenges posed by Covid limitations a longer exchange time can be expected. The kreg extra long square bit and square drive screws are very good for pocket holes. Copyright (c) 2022 LEAN Woodworking LLC. Keep sharing!

Irwin Quickgrips, well lets just say i cant keep track of all mine of the 6-12 size. In this video, you state that you are able to pick up the aluminum bar clamps and the 1/2 pipe clamps locally. Once you have purchased the shipping we will send you a pre-addressed shipping label. Or even waist-aprons for compact tool storage? For Technical Support, please call 800-447-8638 or send a message. They simply wont hold up or hold together. So . How do these clamps compare to the Kreg clamps? Many of the users said that the jig was constantly dropping the glide and a way to avoid that was to put a strong magnet on the side of the jig. This past week was the first time I ever needed to use the miter guide though.I was rebuilding some shelving in a tiny closet and I discovered theContinue.

Hopefully this article was helpful in helping you discover and decide what Harbor Freight wood working tools are worth investing in. I feel like the power isnt there like in traditional F stylebar clamps, the handle is going in the wrong direction, and overall just feel awkward when using them for some reason. And the store manager has some say in accepting a return (while I havent tested it out, think damaged goods). I epoxied some larger washers onto the swivel pads and use them for clamping workpieces together when doing pocket screws. I can get 1/2 pipe clamps locally for $6 and pipe at $1.20 per foot. The brands and manufacturers that Harbor Freight uses are frequently made in China. they were all name brand power equipment , did not ever consider using anything from Harbour freight. First time I really had a need for the ACS miter guide. That is the very vice grips clamp I use for my Kreg , it works perfectly. Drills holes at a precise angle and depth for installation of pocket holes in wood assembly, Depth control for varying thickness of wood. What other items does HF have that are comparable to Kreg items? Great idea David! Whenever you can add to your woodworking tool collection its a good day.. Instead Ill just focus on the things I like about the tool, things I dont like about the tool, and would I buy it again. I would (and already have) pick up some better quality F style clamps if I had to start over. That means you keep your jig until we can complete your transaction in full. Keep in mind Harbor Freight has a strong brand to protect and their tools reflect that quality. But cheap at the cost of missing needed features is never a good investment. After 25+ years woodworking theres always room for value tools. Theres a YouTube video on it. They are reliable and strong for closing bags of charcoal, fertilizer, dog food, and most anything else. Milwaukee vs. Festool. Partial or incomplete jigs will not be accepted for this trade-in promotion. Jay! I bought a brass wire wheel that goes in my drill to clean the bars on my k bodies makes it a lot easier and wont tear the bar up since the brass is softer. Woodworkers are used to comparing tool brands to decide what their next tools should be. But, for budget minded projects or one-time use, a less expensive jig with a reputation for durability and precision is what DIYers or occasional woodworkers will choose. But, most importantly, the top cabinet hardware jigs will work on all styles of doors, including shaker cabinets that have a challenging inset face. Jay I have used the Ervin clamps for a while, and personally I have broken one of them. NOTE: Armor offers Free Standard Shipping on orders over $100. Irwin quick clamps have never let me down.

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But, features like ease of bit change, electronic speed control, and a wide range of speed adjustment are also required. Due to limited features like adjustable speed (adapters required) on the Harbor Freight wood routers youll encounter issues down the road. He drilled holes through the handle of every wood-handled clamp he had, and then you can use any screwdriver or I guess a bolt to really torque them down. Those coupons and free items keep me going to Harbor freight, Stepson bought 4 of these for me at Xmas. While not unexpected as they compete with big box store policies, Harbor Freight has a generous 90-day return policy.. Keep up the videos. The HF pipe clamp hardware is cheap in price and I havent had any problem with them. However, if you plan on making dovetail drawers, install the router in a router table or other complex projects then look elsewhere. First the docking station is extremely cheap. (2) CERTAIN CONTENT THAT APPEARS ON THIS SITE COMES FROM AMAZON. After using every type of random orbit sander to build cabinets and furniture the simple answer to which random orbital sander is best comes down to owning two orbital sanders: Cordless. Perfect for indoor and outdoor activities. The only catch? Pipe clamps are my clamp of choice due to price and flexibility. Dewalt), Entry-grade 3/4 (these are cheaper and lack the feet found on the pro versions), If you are just starting out and wont make cabinets or furniture, go for it.. Also have the HF pocket hole jig. But similar to cars and trucks there are just higher priced tools on the market with MORE features you may not always need. Right on! Thanks! The spring clamps are also good for holding down a table cloth in the wind, assuming the table surface isnt too thick. Its totally sad that quality and craftsmanship have gone by the way side and most tools are cheap knock offs. Well, consider: While I recommend the Dewalt for its enhanced performance, in the field of off-brand planers the Bauer from Harbor Freight will work., But, if you have more ambitious woodworking plans then invest extra few hundred in the Dewalt DW735x.. HF alum bar clamps have done me well, after filling them with plywood strips. And, since there many types of planers, its worth noting that a benchtop planer typically features: Straight or helical blades Support for boards up to 13-inches (33 cm) Single phase 15-amp motors Adjustable height up to 6-inches (15.2 cm) Single or two speed, Until youve connecteda random orbital sander to a dust extractor you dont know what youre missing. From wood chisels to clamps and router bits Harbor Freight is a reliable source of woodworking and many other tools. Ive got some 1 spring clamps that I dont recall if Ive used or not, I used to recommend Harbor Freight F style clamps to everyone. I prefer aluminum bar clamps and 1/2 pipe clamps over Bessey K Body clamps. Just like the Guide Block, the Drill Bit Collar will automatically adjust to the correct depth simultaneously synchronized with the Guide Block. Hi Jay, Otherwise this is fine. I have the Kreg and if you are using it with one of the kids, don't buy the HF version. Enjoy you videos, Thank you. IMHO to each their own, I wont judge you I do scratch my head from time to time when I see people at the counter buying certain items knowing its not going to last. The Color-Coat system also serves as an anti-corrosive coating. Sure enjoy your stuff. What I found when I go home was this when compaired to HF they looked identical. But the twist is only real noticeable during side loading such as clamping a non flat item to a flat one and stuff. (5) Amazon and the Amazon logo are trademarks of Amazon.com, Inc, or its affiliates. In this article youll discover a comprehensive breakdown of all Harbor Freight wood tools, with purchasing advice on: What if I dont have a Harbor Freight near me? If your just looking for a tool you only need here and there than its worth pulling the trigger on a deal. Thats a good note Larry, this might be why Ive always had such bad luck with pipe clamps. While most woodworking uses a drill press infrequently, a few mortise and tenon or cabinet door drilling heavy projects will rely on it.

Theyre my favorite type of clamp. Every non Irwin brand quick clamp Ive used (a couple knock offs and Harbor Freight versions) have broke. Heck you really dont need clamps at all if the wood is machined right. I still have most of them today and that was 2006 when I bought them A Lego has more, Posted by Duke Leon on February 15, 2021 at 9:00pm, Several months ago, I purchased the Kreg K4MS so that I could build the Lego Table as outlined on the companion "buildsomething" web site which exclusively uses pocket hole construction. Acquired many 3/4 pipe clamps from forsaid neighbor and grandfather.

The catch? With clamps I dont see that as a clear cut situation. Is the Kreg Drawer slide jig worth the money or is the Rockler slide jig better? I had several similar tools, from Harbor Freight. So whats the features you may regret not getting?

Good article! In this article learn what Harbor Freight wood working tools are great finds and what you should consider buying elsewhere. You can put a wood bar inside the aluminum bar clamps to make them much more rigid. I use the small spring clamps all the time for closing bags. First, I was blown away to find out thatthe Kreg automaxx bar clamps were the most expensive clamps I had. And a lot of them, as similar to Amazon, youll find a wealth of user feedback on the Harbor Freight tools. No adjustments for different thickness, The 6 HF clamps work well as a bench hold down if you grind off the weld on the back allowing them to come apart. Well, Harbor Freight has been around a long time and expects the same quality of the tools they sell as the brands that order from similar overseas manufacturers. Facebook. Never used the Kreg one to compare but didn't like the plastic build. I recently happened into the local Rockler store and saw the mounting jig was on sale. Bed Swing & Porch Swing Frame (METRIC & IMPERIAL) - PLAN, Woodworking Workbench (METRIC & IMPERIAL) PLAN, Milwaukee M18 FUEL 2840-20 Electric Compact Quiet Compressor, Miter Saw Station Upgrade: Milwaukee 6955-20 Miter Saw. Mike. I cant find them for twice that price. "There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. I found a clamp that is more durable and works better. That means a 1/2 pipe clamp that is 24 long is $8.50. So, feel free to compare brands and then decide if the Harbor Freight wood tools on this list are something youll want to consider: In my experience, most woodworkers will turn to a jigsaw only occasionally. Well, they offer online purchases., So whats the big deal with Harbor Freight?. I really like them. For example (see picture) the material is 3/4, the guide block indicates 3/4 and matches a yellow screw for optimal joining. But, choosing the right type of vise and mounting location isnt as obvious as it might seem. First, in order to help you decide whats a great deal at Harbor Freight vs. what can (or should) be bought elsewhere this tool listing includes Amazon generic and brand name alternatives. If the glue squeezes out ant there is no deformity, then that is tight enuf!!! The Bessey K Body clamps are very strong clamps with nice wide clamping facesbut again are pretty expensive. The local store I mentioned in the video is Discount Tools in Starkville Mississippi. Luckily I paused for a moment to go read the on-line reviews. Retired in 2004 and sold every tool I used. They aren't auto adjusting but then again once you set the clamp its set. Automatically Adjust Drill Guide Block to Correct Height. I refuse to buy anything with a cord on it from HF because typically the smoke gets let out too soon or the cheap bearings or brushes blow their guts too soon. Most probably set every slide before moving on to something else. But does that mean they are lower quality than the (also made in China) well known brands? I already have the Kreg clamps and have ordered the jig. Please check your browser settings or contact your system administrator. Simply put your workpiece into the Auto-Jig, engage the system, and the Drill Guide Block and Drill Bit Collar will automatically make adjustments based off the the material thickness giving you the correct depth and angle while creating the most accurate and efficient pocket holes. Last reply by Jay Boutwell Apr 19. While you might be familiar with standard brands like Dewalt, Makita and Milwaukee the popular woodworking brands from Harbor Freight include: So how do I know if the tool is junk or worth the spend? A forum community dedicated to router and woodworking professionals and enthusiasts. They still complete the taskbut not without compensating for a bend in the bar or the screw bending off to one side. Jigs received on trade do not need to be functional, but must include all main component parts (complete jig). The middle ground seems to be the sweet spot for me. So, what should you look for? They have since become more frustrating than what they are worth in my opinion. I couldnt buy on-line. The most efficient and versatile way to secure your workpiece. Very well reasoned and clearly stated. Please keep it up the good summaries and honesty! Lastly, it is constructed of steel, nylon, and blown fiberglass for superior durability. And none of them have broken. Stay away from the low end and stay away from the high end. We offer two ways to get us your jig. Theres no reason to drag a cord around the. I've used it for about 2 years now on several projects and no issues. Still need to buy pipe like Jay says. Limited to Cont. A vises number one job is hold onto your woodworking piece when you need it. Youll likely STILL be buying Kregs screws and clamps; and if you want to venture into their mini-size jigs its best to stick with Kreg to start. Keep up the good work! THIS CONTENT IS PROVIDED AS IS AND IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE OR REMOVAL AT ANY TIME. Currently a 6 pack of Bessey 6 clamps are $15 on HomeDepot.com. We agree on pipe clamps. Even went to work part time at home depot . However, before jumping in and buying your router, its best to pick a router lift and router together. You can still participate in the exchange, purchase the Make The Trade shipping label, and it will hold you place in the exchange, but we WILL NOT request you send your jig until the transaction (trade) can be processed within 7 days. Great review.

WE REPEAT. Did you know there is waxed cloth to help prevent stains? Tip I got from an old cabinet-maker. simmons I bought the Kreg. I saw the video Kreg put out for this new jig and had high hopes for it. You mentioned how you would remake your clamp rack if you were doing it over, any plans to do so? I wish I could get the 48 for the $6 price Jay was quoting. Tom yes they work better than kreg brand name they don't break. I have used the Harbour frieght clamps a cense 2005 and I have never had a problem with them I have them up to 24 Is it a supply house that I may be able to order from online or one that might be up by me in Idaho? bandsaw kreg Worked well. Well, to future-proof this drill consider: Unless you projects will include machining metal or precision layouts, there just isnt enough difference between brands to warrant the extra expense. Just tighten with the onboard allen wrench and youre ready to drill. Great idea!! Also, the Irwin clamps are nice, but Ive broken a bunch by accidentally squeezing them too hard. No resetting. what are you using it for ? They are relatively inexpensive, have plenty of power for what I do, clean up easily, and are easy to handle and use. The Kreg has a larger pad that clicks on to the jig. Disclaimer: DIY projects can be dangerous,hire a professional (link to Home Advisor) if unsure. and as a BONUS receive a guide to 300+ lumber retailers (with price lists). This also guarantees you will get the trade and $70 Off. Theyre awkward for some projects but for small clamping tasks they work fine. Privacy Policy | Even more expensive than the same length Bessey K Body clamps. Of course I probably used where I should have used a bigger clamp. None of these have broke. Disclosures: (1) If you click a link on this site and buy something I will earn a commission. They are waaaaaaaay less expensive and I reach for them more frequently in my shop. I have no objections to responding to them but I thought it would be beneficial to start a video library of sorts to briefly touch on what I think of a particular tool or set of tools. I got hooked on antique boats and bought one. Plastic chip clips from the grocery store just do not measure up, and break often, and weve mostly thrown them all out. I have found that a good set of bowed cauls can make for very effective clamping while greatly reducing the number (40 75 %) of clamps/straps needed. Also the straps tend to reduce, if not eliminate, twisting from the clamping, generally allowing me to clamp entirely from one side. Share !function(d,s,id){var js,fjs=d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0];if(!d.getElementById(id)){js=d.createElement(s);js.id=id;js.src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js";fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js,fjs);}}(document,"script","twitter-wjs"); They have almost as much surface area and power as the K-body clamps, but without the finicky set up, and all the advantages of the Irwins. So what makes, While some woodworkers get by without one, a benchtop planer is usually a must for any woodworker. If I were to rebuild my shop tomorrow I would definitely stock up on 1/2 pipe clampsfirst as I find them to be the best value for the money. He is someone who is able to cover them up so that no one can tell. The kreg clamps new self adjusting clamps broke easy and kicked back like mule. Clamp and GO! I read once that "armor tools" held the patent on the self-adjust mechanism that works well. Only used once or twice, then they followed my younger son, and ran away from home. FYI, the Bessey 6 F style clamps from Home Depot are a result of oversupply Christmas inventory. The top of the line is where I think the value diminishes quickly. Kreg sent me a few of their bar automaxx bar clamps. But, when you do, the following features are crucial: So lets start off with introducing you to one of Harbor Freights (HF) more popular corded and cordless brands in the: Bauer 6.5 Amp Laser Line Jigsaw. Send us your old jig to upgrade to the Armor Auto Auto-Jig! Aluminum bar clamps are a close second on my list. Powered by, Badges | BENCHTOP TOOL ORGANIZERS: The best cabinet hardware jigs are designed to be used for jobs of any size, are made from all metal components and are easy to use. Customer will be responsible for shipping cost of any non-qualifying returns. It needed a lot of wood work done.

Simply because sometimes things just don't need to be complicated.

Use our shipping or ship on your own. Insert your workpiece into the Auto-Jig and engage, the drill guide block will automatically self adjust to the correct height and angle based off the material thickness. Auto-Adjust B5-HH Horizontal T-Track Clamp, 8" Needle Nose Compound Leverage Cutting Pliers. I have made legs out of ash hardwood and will make the sides out of 1/2 or 3/4 Baltic birch plywood. While the mainstream stores stick with mainstream brands, youll find Harbor Freight has lesser known brands bought from the same manufacturers that build name brand tools. woodworkingportal They have several and their own Pocket hole jig too. I might have to try them out again at some point. FC. Learn why woodworkers prefer a vise like the aptly named for its versatility, compactness and all-wood jaws plus other types of woodworking vises. Images are copyrighted and may not be used without explicit written permission. We are currently expecting a 2 week wait time to receive your shipping label. Someone I consider a master woodworker once told me that a master woodworker is not someone who never makes mistakes. A whole lot cheaper buying the bits and pieces and assembling what length of clamps you want. A great price for a set of 6 clamps that can be used for smaller projects. Press J to jump to the feed. Harbor Freight has some traditional adjusting - manual - vice grips with swivel pads. I have them and really like them. Instead of through 4,5, or 6 different steps like many other pocket hole system. Seems to be awfully quiet about Kreg's Adaptive Cutting System, How to Build a Shaker Fireplace Surround - Woodworking. Use any shipping service of your choice. You can still participate in the exchange, purchase the Make The Trade shipping label, and it will hold you place in the exchange, but we WILL NOT request you send your jig until the transaction (trade) can be processed within 7 days. Vice Grip makes a similar one for welding with solid tips and not self adjusting but Ive had no issues with it in over 20 years Ive had it. You can ship your jig by purchasing our prepaid negotiated shipping rates (way cheaper) to get your trade to our shop. At least I do.

But, if youre a fan of JET (its my table saw of 20 years) then you can always make a purchase decision on brand. We are currently looking at a 2 week wait time to receive your shipping label.

(you pay shipping). As a discount versus the Kreg system, the Harbor Freight wood pocket hole jig offers a cheaper entry point in an all aluminum body. Yep. :)). Hopefully this will be helpful to some people. So not wanting to spend a lot of money on clamps that I might never use again I tried HF clamps and found them to be a great value for my dollar. Armor reserved the sole right and discretion to determine if any jig received qualified for this promotion and will promptly return any non-qualified jig to the customer. Maximum Durability Steel, Nylon, & Fiberglass Construction. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Reps are available Monday through Friday from 8am to 5pm CST. Jeff. Thanks Jay. The Auto-Jig Offers unprecedented efficiency and convenience. Thanks Luke! And mostly because I use them heavily for cabinet making and need features like: While HF offers a good selection of plunge, fixed base and trim routers Id make a purchase decision based on: Planning to move to advanced woodworking projects?

And free up valuable bench space. Get that lifetime warranty. I've been using my Adaptive Cutting System table for a few years now, and it's been really solid. Signup for a FREE hardwood directory that organizes 300+ hardwood retailers across the USA. Armor brand much smother and less expensive. That actually ends up being less expensive than the Harbor Freight F style clamps. One of the best pieces of advice someone gave me about buying clamps is: always buy in pairs. *Exchange includes Kreg K4 & k5, Harbor Freight Drill Master, & MasscaM1. Or, check out our pocket hole jig guide and start opening doors on a whole new world of projects. Bessey has a beefed up line of those F style clamps that has a thicker bar and a larger composite handle. Thanks for the tip on the couplings Floyd. JavaScript is disabled. Any price and availability information displayed on [relevant Amazon Site(s), as applicable] at the time of purchase will apply to the purchase of this product. That it, youre done! Through an eliminate-the-middleman approach they advertise tools made by the same manufacturers that supply well known brands. To ensure accuracy, our Color-Coat system matches the optimal screw length in relation to the thickness of the material and depth of the pocket hole. Most things from HF are adequate as long as you don't mind tweaking the tool\item where applicable. All that is needed is a rubber band. Exchange includes Kreg K4 & k5, Harbor Freight Drill Master, & MasscaM1. I use or have a couple of 1/2 in bar clamp.

The Auto-Adjust clamp can clamp any thickness without resetting, and the Color-Coat system gives you the optimal screw length. By visiting this website, you opt-in to the use of cookies. Tweet Inexpensive 2 spring clamps are handy. You get what you pay for and Id rather have good clamps working well with the cost of wood these days. Started by Adam in General Woodworking May 6. In this, Woodworking vises free up your hands to carve, screw, drill or do whatever task is needed while your work stays securely in place. On the bottom youve got the super inexpensive Harbor Freight clamps that I previously recommended to everyone. The aluminum bar clamps and pipe clamps clean up very fast from glue drips. The self adjusting ones would be handy to use. Luke Troughton said: What I found interesting about the Rockler product was the clamping mechanism to hold the drawer slide. Take that shipping label to the nearest location and ship. Limit of one exchange per customer/email/address. Once you have a shipping tracking number, fill out the form to the right and hit send. One thing I didnt mention in an earlier post is that while I dont like the HF f clamps, I do buy the 1/2 pipe clamp working parts from Harbor Freight (posters were asking) and then buy 1/2 black pipe from Home Depot or Lowes. When replacing the wood you need a ton of different clamps. I have the HF version of the pocket hole tool, really like it with the full aluminum build and the drill bushings. I also put a good coat of paste wax on them keeps the glue from sticking to them only have to clean them every two years or so. As for clamps Harbor Freight will see you the clamps with the round jaw pads. That allows you to reach those wide glue-ups or use a smaller length so you are not running into a long pipe extending over the edge of a bench.

As alway, I love your content! Ive used them for years (make them myself) with no issues and dont see any need for the much more expensive 3/4 clamps. Actually, they are. A good tip is to buy a few black pipe couplings and different lengths of pipe so you can easily add to the length of the pipe by using a coupling and more pipe. The plastic is pathetic. One of the woodworking mags (might have been Wood) had a piece about coating them with cheaper heat-shrink tubing to provide better grip. But I guess the same could be said for certain tools purchased at big box stores these days. In this guide learn how a few minutes time will have your bench upgraded from messy to tidy with easy to use products like: PEGBOARD ORGANIZERS: will quickly organize tools and parts. I didnt care for the best Bessy F style clamps because the wooden handle is small and its harder to torque down on the clamp. As a woodworker with over 25 years experience, 100+ kitchens built and many other projects Im sharing my tips, tricks and tool choices on this site. Be sure to check out my favorite woodworking charity Sleep in Heavenly Peace that builds beds for kids who sleep on the floor. For example, FastCap has a glue bottle that takes the hard squeeze out of that Titebond bottle your stressed hand is used to gripping. Armor wants you to MAKE THE TRADE to the only fully self adjusting pocket hole jig! Harbor Freight carries many brands and pride themselves in lower cost tools vs. brand name alternatives. Never tried the HF F style myself, i was lucky enough to get a bunch of bessey/ jorgenson ones of various sizes from a former neighbor and grandfather. Report an Issue |

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