Last edited by trixyinaz (2012-05-21 20:20:46), White glue is usually cheaper than yellow glue. The 2nd time I got the idea to get the TP wet and mash it and then add my glue (above) and I got a nice clay like pulp, but it seemed too wet. There are soo many sealants you can use to weather-proof your projects. I don't find liquidizing it makes much difference. Unfortunately, I no longer have a website or blog to show my work. Other places are black where the bitumen shows through. Its the perfect go-to glue for art and craft projects for both adults and kids; such as card-making, scrapbooks, model-making and school projects. I just finished putting on the 2nd layer of pulp on a few pieces and WOW! I find is Titebond 2 is properly finished with a good coat of sealant (poly varnish, spray-on plastic, etc.) Yeah, I have a fan blowing on the three pieces that I did yesterday. I think you tried to upload a photo, but it needs to be less than 250 kb to work. The mask cap is still flexible, but every seam is reinforced with the strong glue and paper. And if you have any ideas for other projects that would benefit from this method, please tell us about them. Moisture promotes both the chemical and biological processes and with more moisture these process speed up. Note: The forum uses a separate login system to the galleries. For further information, please see the Bostik PVA Glue Technical Data Sheet. This is great do you mean that if you use the Titebond 2 and really saturate the shop towels, they can stand up to the weather for long periods of time? Im thinking its time for another paper mache clay experiment. So I ordered my glue online from amazon.com the larger bottles are a much better value than the small ones. Thanks for your support! Unfortunately, my local hardware store only carries tiny bottles of it, and I have many more patterns to design for the Lion King characters. I'll have to look at the brand when I go back upstairs and let you know, but it clearly states on the back it is toxic and to avoid skin contact - I never heeded that warning 'cuz I can't stand working with gloves on. Note that images greater than 250KB will not be uploaded. So Durabond is a possible answer to waterproofing.

Turned it on to break it up even more and then added 1 cup of wood glue and mixed thouroughly.

The blob was built up with aluminum foil. I find posting about my work takes away from my time to actually work on them. Jim, thank you so much for your reply. Hello, I need some advice. I am going to make a human-sized beetle. I like using toilet paper as you can get an almost porcelain like appearance (subject to a lot of sanding). I just looked at the bottle again. I didn't add any wall paper paste b/c I wasn't sure if my daughter was going to use any and since it's "toxic" I didn't want her handling it. The skin is untreated dacron (canvas works well too). The brand is Roman's Golden Harvest GH-80 Paste for Unpasted Wallpaper.I'll need to find some cethyl cellulose paste. If so, that would be great news. Or you can dip the paper into the glue and put them on the armature. I just made a temporary bowl out of an old yogurt container. Thanks for your help. I have worked with paper, dacron, fiberglass, and canvas. If the paper mache cracked because the ball has air inside it that expanded with warmer weather, that would also cause the paper mache clay to crack. Here's a site that describes the different types of wallpaper pastes:http://www.wallpaperinstaller.com/adhesives.htmlThe (methyl) cellulose types shouldn't be toxic, and the wheat flour shouldn't be, either. In a hectic and fast-paced world, spending a little time doing art and craft projects can provide some welcome relaxation. We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. I paid $15 for the gallon jug and went online to see how much a gallon of the white glue was and it was the same through Amazon.

I havent used the wood glue with shop towels, but I know that when I use the joint compound and glue mixture with the shop towels they stay floppy unless the paper is completely saturated. BTW, I hope youll let us see it when its done! All it needs now is a coat of spray primer, some acrylic paint, and a raffia table skirt for the mane on the adult male lions, like the mane I put on the lion wall mask behind me in my videos. The most important aspect is to make sure ALL the fibers are as saturated with adhesive even if that means thinning out the adhesives which in turn always leads to longer drying times. I usually dip, just because its faster, but many people feel its neater to use a brush instead. Remember to open and use your glue on a protected work surface and ensure that anything you plan to glue is clean, dry and dust free. I would like to chat with you and, per your instructions, connection with you here in comments is better than an email.

Dacron has heat shrink properties that canvas does not which makes for a smoother finished skin. What is the best kind of paste to use? Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment.

It works the same with paper mache clay and paper strips and paste. You are attempting to upload an invalid image. You can also subscribe without commenting. I am using Titebond 2 and water as my glue/paste. I will be using Flex Seal Clear (see image) on my current Pumpkin Head (only because it was given to me by someone who bought too much). It sounds like you have a very strong base for the beetles shell, so either of these should work. I dropped that into my bucket and 8 days later took it out. After a week, it started to soften. Im making several pieces and need them strong but smooth. Anything water resistant may still be/become susceptible to the effects of moisture. Several of our readers have shared guest posts showing us how they sealed their outdoor sculptures with Flex Seal, and for them it seems to be working well. Would it work to apply the titebondvto a finished -mch project to make it water resistant after its already been painted or would that destroy the appearance? Im wondering, what do you do between the step of painting on the glue mixture, and then having the finished mask? Thats great did you use the sort of talc used for babies? The one way that Ive found that works flawlessly with any flexible form that contains air is to put a layer of plaster cloth on first. The link you posted didn't come through, but I'll do a search on the topic. {document.write(String.fromCharCode(60,97,32,104,114,101,102,61,34,109,97,105,108,116,111,58,119,101,98,64,112,97,112,105,101,114,109,97,99,104,101,46,99,111,46,117,107,34,32,62,67,111,110,116,97,99,116,32,117,115,60,47,97,62))} Thanks for all your help.next time I'll just break up the wet TP with a spoon.Have a lovely day!Vicki, Powered by PunBB Copyright 20022005 Rickard Andersson, The Papier Mache Resource All content copyright 2000 - 2022 the respective authors. It sticks lots of materials, including paper, card, wood and fabric. Discover more about the small businesses partnering with Amazon and Amazons commitment to empowering them. It is expensive, I know. I participate in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program that helps sites like mine earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon.com. Then your paper mache clay was used. Twist the blue part of the nozzle anti-clockwise, then gently squeeze the bottle and spread the glue onto one or both surfaces. You only need enough water to make the glue thin enough to brush. Be creative, think outside the box. Bostik PVA Glue comes in an easy-to-use bottle with a resealable cap, and its specially formulated to be washable, so accidents are easy to clear up. Since I didn't have some of the ingredients he references, I just used wall paper paste and PVA. The sawmill makes lumber and other wood products. For those of us who dont live in Australia and cant get the product you used for your latest experiment. How to make paper mach with Bostik PVA glue, Paper mach is simple and fun to make and can be used in many art and craft projects. I only ever use it as a top coat. After use, turn the nozzle clockwise to stop the glue drying out and wipe the nozzle with a clean cloth. I did this in sections and just smoothed the seams together. Does anyone else use it? I have been making Pumpkinhead masks for my Great Pumpkin halloween costume for 27 years. If saved, this image will not display with your comment. OK, I admit that I gave up on the brush after Id been working for about an hour, but the brush will help you apply only as much glue as you really need. Gregory, we would love to see your masks. For a normal face mask, you might want to put paper mache on both the inside and outside of the mask, to make sure its nice and strong. Collectively we can find an answer. Wendy. We also need to remember chemical and biological processes decay/break-down wood (celulose). Hello! I couldnt open the how to make paper mache smooth. If you love being creative, its great to add a new skill to your repertoire and find new ways to express your creative side. Heads up! Good luck with your project! Flex Seal comes in black and clear, as a spray-on or brush on SEALANT. The pumpkin people start with foam and then cover it with plaster, and then the thin set. While epoxy is great at joining together wood fibers, paper fibers, and fiberglass, epoxy is expensive, not great for the environment, and can be deadly toxic if not handled properly. Once the final layer is dry, ease your paper mach off your mould. Attached is a photo of a big needed-to-be-waterproof project, my most recent kayak. If the items need to remain slightly flexible, like a mask, be sure to put an acrylic gesso over the drywall joint compound. I thought it would be a good idea to try the Titebond III with blue shop towels on the wings so they would be light in weight and thin. The vinyl and vinyl/clay probably wouldn't be so good to eat, but I wonder what in it would bother your skin???Sue. If I wasnt' short on cash right now (recently laid off), I would made the 40 minute drive to the craft store that I know carries the gallon jug. Apply the strip to your mould, then repeat, starting in the centre and gradually fanning out. I would be curious to know if that were the case. 15% OFF PATTERN ORDERS OF $30 OR MORE USE CODE: 15%OffOver30, This is a reader-supported site. The extra water helps to saturate the blue shop towels which gives the long term benefit of saturating the paper fibers with glue to make a strong shell.

I applied one coating of Durabond to the head. As each project is different, the tools and material differ too. If you want to glue a non-absorbent surface such as plastic, allow the glue to dry for a few minutes before pressing the surfaces together. Is there a "non-toxic" brand that you know of and would recommend? Krylon coats the rubber material really well and they have a vibrant pallet of colors. I tried them both, but the Titebond product worked much better for me. I soaked it in water and blasted it through my blender. Manage your subscriptions. After viewing product detail pages, look here to find an easy way to navigate back to pages you are interested in. The choice is project dependent. And for more creative craft projects, check out our inspiring Glue Gun Ideas. Adhesives/glues are made to joining things together. The glue was applied too thickly, and it pooled in the ear while it sat upside down. Ive never seen anyone first paint on a layer of the mixture, so Im curious how you go forward after that step. Please email me at your earliest convenience! This makes the white glue harder to sand because it softens with the heat of friction, and comes off on the sandpaper, making it gummy.

We covered them with regular paper mache made with water and flour and painters paper. Im using it for an outdoor wood sculpture. Does anyone have a recipe for making paper pulp out of toilet paper?Thanks in advance. I havent tried it. Dang. I am working on some birds that will be hung from the ceiling. Hi Jim. If youre just starting with your first paper mache project, you might also want to read my new post how to make paper mache in 5 steps., The Titebond III glue is very strong, so use a throw-away container. That may be true with wood glue, too. I picked it up at Home Depot. I also added wire for the vanes on the feathers and I wanted the vanes to be visible. Thank you! When used in a very thin layer, it may crack when flexed.

I have learned through life the perfect answer to any question is it depends because often there are so many variables to consider before figuring out the right answer. Give it another try. Because blue shop towels are very absorbent I made my glue to water ratio 1-part Titebond 2 to 2-parts water. Polyurethane sealants [marine varnish] are great, dry fast, dry clear, and have different finishes matte, gloss, semi-gloss. Can you use joint compound directly over this paper mache or should you always do paper mache clay first? Jonni I think I put a post here last year using Titebond III on alumium foil together with your paper mache clay. When you buy through links on this site, I may earn an affiliate commission. It really helps if you put one hand on the inside of your mask, to support the cardboard when you press down on the glued paper. Its a good idea to look over the wet mask and use a paper towel to remove any excess glue, so the entire mask will dry at the same time. Simple paper mache paste uses the stickiness/starch of flour, wallpaper paste is essentially a mix of flour and chemicals, and many other good combinations of adhesives are presented here by our Host Jonni. It allows us to pause and get lost in the moment. Hello! Dan Reeder used wood glue with his cloth mache for an outdoor dragon, so maybe that is the answer. So far it seems to be working well. Moisture/water dissolves glues, breaks down organic fibers/cellulose, and promotes growth of mold and mildew. So to answer the question what is the best waterproofing, it depends, and the best way to figure out that puzzle is to experiment and share with others what we find works best (knowing that what works best for one project may not work well for another). What was your original blob made with? Exterior grade oil-based paints are fantistic, dry to a hard finish, and provide a wide pallet of color and finish choices. The Titebond III glue is perfect for masks and props. You can use a thin layer of joint compound over paper strips and paste to make it smooth. This is a great experiment. And be sure to post the results on my blog it sounds like the kind of project that would be exciting to see when its finished. Do you think your paper mache clay would work or what would you suggest. Have fun! The helmet is going on its fourth Halloween and as well as throughout the years. Jonni, We are making large 4 foot and 5 foot nylon balls to make planets for a parade float. Trees get cut and they go to a sawmill.

After the paper mache is applied and works, we would like to paint with glue/paint mixture and glitter them. Like permanently outside? Keep in mind that dry on the surface is not really 'dry'.White glue usually dries softer than yellow glue.

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