And I would add, that the owner of this house might pursue an intentional strategy of allowing things to look old, less than perfect, marked and patina-ed. Within seconds, youve now just swapped out the insert inside your storm door. After making additional adjustments today, I'm about ready to just throw the damn thing in the trash and call it a $300 lesson learned to skip Anderson. Terrible design!!! Responding to Linda: You are so right that as little change as possible saves money and retains the authenticity of the building and there are plenty of installers who want to redo whatever. After finally gettiing the replacement screen which we were told we had to install ourselves. All Andersen storm doors are backed by a lifetime limited warranty that covers paint adhesion, hinges and frame with a 5 year limited warranty on most other components. So I am thinking that it is going to be around $5K to convert this window to a double french door. I'll post pics when I get them Nothing is inexpensive in the Philly burbs. I have Pella in my Northern NJ home and they are awful- arrived with chips and rub marks; Pella's solution to that was to send me a box of about 20 little bottles that looked like black nail polish bottles to do the "touch up" myself (black clad exterior), which I didn't do because I thought it would look worse to dab that on all over a house full of brand new windows. No instructions. Andersen Doors are junk! You can tell they have had problems with these doors blowing open.

Any help would be appreciated.

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Admittedly such people are more plentiful in New England and the West Coast. The Emco and Larsons are pretty similar in quality and installation, both get better the higher up in there series you go. Helpful but showed a zip tie needed which was also to have been included. Im an obsessive learner who spends time reading, writing, producing and hosting Iggy LIVE and WithInsightsRadio.com My biggest passion is creating community through drumming, dance, song and sacred ceremonies from my homeland and other indigenous teachings. The door was made by Emco, an Andersen subsidiary, and was one of the new kinds that allows you to slide one of the glass panes over the other as it unfurls a screen. Last fall I bought a new screen door at Home Depot for several hundred dollars. When I called the company to use the warranty, I was told that that is wind damage and they don't cover itthat they were getting a lot of calls about "wind damage" and they would not cover the damage. There was a tiny little thing that goes into that closer. Door is beautiful - CLOSER IS AWFUL - So far, this morning, I have been on hold for two hours. You are stuck with it forever, until you replace it. It was a mistake 2000 uses 2 closers, 3000 only 1. Ive had nothing but problems with my door since the day it was installed. Same experience with me. Next, if you want to install a wind chain you can't screw it into the top rail because it will damage the roll up screen. 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Responding to sellkay: Look for crafts-person who specializes in wood and steel window restoration and repair. Computer monitor limitations prevent exact color duplication. The bracket and pin that held the closer to the door were also bent. In past systems, trying to switch your storm doors insert was a difficult task. All Andersen storm doors are backed by a lifetime limited warranty that covers paint adhesion, hinges and frame with a 5 year limited warranty on most other components. or prepare to buy a Handel system separate. Every one of these doors should have been recalled. I ripped the whole damned assembly out, threw it in the trash, and attached a simple "pull knob" in the old holes. Sigh. Especially the screen doors. Already had to replace the closer hardware. But from some reviews I gather the newer handle/latches dont last as long. Ive not had problems with it other than dirt. Andersen is very aware of this design flaw. When I asked to speak to a supervisor, I was met with resistence and ultimately promised a call back which never happened. We recently purchased a home that was built in the 50's. We asked kitchen designers to tell us the most common budget-busters they see, 10 basic ingredients for a contract will help pave the way to remodel happiness, Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, From the Pros: 8 Reasons Kitchen Renovations Go Over Budget, What to Look for in a Contractor's Contract, Stained Quartzite after drilling/installing windows. I like the epoxy idea but if it bends the top cover it may effect screen operation. I'm assuming that means you can't screw into the door with a hook. The other thing is that the handles aren't spring-loaded.

The latch rail retracts in cold weather and expands in hot weather. Use our easy step-by-step design tool to create the right storm door for your home. However, what about epoxy? I just bought two Emco storm doors and am very disappointed with them. So you can't secure the chain at the top of the door cuz the screen rolls up. Same issue..poor customer servicelack of ownership on defective producttotally disappointed, The new door I bought from Home depot is missing an entire bag of screws, making installation difficult if not impossible. They screwed up royally here, yet they refuse to make any recompense to the owners of these nightmare doors.

We have the very same door with the very same problem. The door has a rollup screen which retracts into the door when the window is closed, much like a window shade would.

The screen slid down inside the door and I can't figure out how to get it outhelp! They need to be set with minimal clearance between the strike and catch. I'm about to buy a series 100+. As for a chain, no good, it will interfere with the screen that rolls up when not in use. The windows are fine, but I am not crazy about the sliding doors. I purchased an Emco door several years ago. first time i saw this i was baffled and called the company they actually had an option "if you are calling about a wind chain on your door, press 3" which led to all sorts of explaining by the automated robot person how "their research has shown that if a gust of wind will engage a wind chain, it will do more damage anyway, blah blah blah baloney" i was to say the least, very impressed! Very disappointed. The most popular of the ventilation options has become the Interchangeable Full View Storm Door. I think your having such a hard time with the doors because the trim is too dark. I said that that was indication of inferior parts, which they should cover; basically they're trying to charge me $22 for replacement parts that are only going to bend again. Any ideas on what I can do to turn this around? Provia and HMI make the best entry and storm doors. Door got stuck open when installing it and the closer will not retract. so the closers will never keep this from happening. Got to the point of installing the new slide rails for the screen. I just installed the Andersen (EMCO) deluxe 1/2 light storm door with self storing (roll up) screen. A quick, no hassle, easy solution to getting the most use of your storm door.

(My door was higher priced because I had it custom sized to fit my non-standard 78" doorway height.) THEY SENT THE WRONG SIZE!!!! The closer on this particular door has broken at least 5 times. My roll up screen lasted less than a year and started coming out of the track. What is the solution to this terrible vulnerability? The Larson door is easier to keep clean. I will need to replace the mechanism soon. Visit our online parts store to find many of the most-common replacement parts for your storm door. Pro-Via and Gerkin are better but you cant get them at a box store and you have to pay. Decorating Your Porch with Holiday Cheer! I used Spray Nine and it appears as if Im rubbing off paint.

I also had a problem with one of these 3000 series andersen storm doors. I went on the Andersen Website and see that they sell "universal closers" with the push button. With the Interchangeable Storm Door, you have the option to swap out the insert whenever youd like between the provided full view glass insert or the insect screen insert. It was amazing and challenging growing up in two different worlds and learning to navigate and merging two different cultures into my life, but I must say the world is my playground and I have fun on Mother Earth. I can't believe that they would sell a $250 door that doesn't have a handle that goes back to its original position. It is the worst door I have ever seen. with pets I never put the screen in. They are hard to find but they are around. I had an estimate for a rustic paver patio with space in between the pavers for creeping Thyme, around $6K, and I would have to buy the pergola myself so depending on the size and material that could be up to another $4K. Got to go. Shop products from small business brands sold in Amazons store. I do NOT recommend Andersen Emco doors and I am disheartened that Andersen does not stand behind their products as there has been NO satisfaction with repeated contact with Andersen. The frustrating part is I had a 2000 that went bad, they honored the warranty right away and I was really impressed. Top subscription boxes right to your door, 1996-2022, Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates.

also, people push them too far open!

It doesn't need to be stripped and sanded smooth. To use the new Quick-Change Release System, youll first use the handle set to disengage the locking mechanisms that keep the insert in place. We had problems with the doors blowing open because they wouldn't latch. I agree with clangton6very cheap feel. 2 years ago we purchased an expensive special order Andersen screen door and the roll up screen (self hiding) is already defective. I just got off the phone with them for the 7th time and they've screwed us over yet again. If the screen is closed, the door will never latch because of the air cushion created by the main door. The new Contemporary Deluxe Storm Doors from Andersen come with a new Quick-Change Release System which removed all the hassle from swapping out inserts. Our brochure provides an overview of features and benefits including available options. This is popular because of the amount of light exposure and ventilation it provides. it makes things so slick. I would never buy this door again!!! I was able to install a chain even with the roll-up screen, but the wind pulled the chain spring apart.

The strike is spring loaded and interacts with the latch only when the handle is depressed, allowing the door to be opened. Anytime ventilation storm door offering quality at an uncommon value with our 2 Hour Easy Install System. my 30 lb dog leans on door and it whips open any wind and it whips open . Quality handle sets in attractive finishes with deadbolt lock for added security.

Cannot see your home. Holy cow.

They plainly state the door is not for insulation - just to keep the rain off the entrance door. Unscrew the top rail from the door, this exposes the roll up screen. LUMINAIRE RETRACTABLE SCREEN DOOR AT THE HOME DEPOT, Prepped for easy assembly and installation in 2 hours or less with only basic skills and tools, One-hand retractable insect screen designed for long-lasting smooth operation. Same exact experience as jseeley . Use this quick & easy guide to determine the size storm door that best fits your entryway. PRIME-LINE Products H 4106 Spline Socket Crank Handle, White, Smooth 360-Degree Operation, Andersen Anvers Style (Single Active) Hinged Door Hardware Set in Oil Rubbed Bronze, Prime-Line B 684 Screen Door Roller Assembly with 1 inch Nylon Wheel (2-pack), Prime-Line C 1176 Sliding Glass Door Handle Set Replace Old or Damaged Door Handles Quickly and Easily Painted White Diecast, Mortise/Hook Style (Fits 3-15/16 Hole Spacing), K.D.

i spend my days repairing things that have been "fixed" five times before, and this sort of thing is just exhausting. Top, bottom and sides to help reduce drafts. They've used aluminum where they should have used steel, and there's no component that catches the door before it swings beyond the extension of the closer. There's a 1/4" gap. Id like to keep this door since it appears some of the newer doors are crap. Have not had a problem with them. We are concerned that it will cost a small fortune to have a storm door custom built. I guess I'll use this until it self destructs and buy the Pella. The nicer Aderson/Emco doors are all metal and are purchased separately and latch into the frame of the door. Once in position, you can then re-engage the locking mechanisms by pushing the lever into its normal operating position and then clicking the button to lock the lever in place. 5 Ways to Increase Energy Efficiency in Colder Weather, Online Form - Blog Newsletter Signup Form. I've had NOTHING BUT ISSUES with the hardware of the Emco 400 storm door. But MUCH worse -- the retractable insect screen (on this brand new door) is falling apart. Compare our full selection of fullview anytime ventilating storm doors. it doesn't matter if there are two, three, or eleven closers on that door, as one fellow here explained so eloquently, you might OPEN the door! It's works with a slight "hydraulic" feel, when I open the door now, there is resistance. Looks harsh to me. My advice.

For one, the glass pane doesn't go all the way to the top on either door when I raise it. I tried everything I could to get it clean. Iggy Garcia LIVE Episode 163 3D5D or R2D2?!?

Lock on a storm door - give me a break. Joanne6, I had the exact same thing happen to my new $500 Andersen/Emco 4000 series storm door. I'm an engineer, and I should have checked it out more that I did. Honestly you would be hard pressed to find anyone that would warranty wind damage. It was $8,200; $2.2K to cut into the wall and install a single window and $6K to install a french door with steps down to grade in the living room. The instructions repeatedly stated to leave a 1/4" gap at the top of the door. The closer that came with my door has that slide thing to keep it open. John. The poor rep may not have been given points for my call but sad that she has to deliver such a ridiculous good news message. Standard Aluminum Sliding Patio Screen Door Kit 36" x 80" (White) - 1-7/8" Frame, Andersen Tribeca Style Exterior Keyed Lock with Keys Right Hand in Stone, Shop an ever-evolving catalog of repair solutions, All customers get FREE Shipping on orders over $25 shipped by Amazon. of course it would've been better had the door been installed in such a way that it would stay closed! it was not. They are a disgrace! Browse our photo gallery to get inspiration for your project. Make some prudent choices, pursue a few bold changes but edit those needs and ideas. 2000 has room for wind chain , 3000 as mentioned does not. It seems they put all the money into latch and lock. Andersen continually replaced parts while under the lousy 1 year warranty but now that the warranty expired, the latch bolt itself fell out onto the porch!!! Preservation is not well understood by many people in the Midwest (I'm originally from Ohio.) Went to Youtube. They sit flush enough that it doesn't interfere with the screen at all. I replaced it once and it lasted maybe 10 years. The two (upper and lower) door closers that are included with this door are simply NOT enough to protect against strong stiff winds. don't buy them you will just need a new door in a year . "Was told by the installer that he doesn't cover wind damage.". When I open the door to go outside, the door will swing open (with a gentle breeze!). One of the greatest features of having an Andersen Storm Door is the flexibility it provides in ventilation options. The closer just isnt strong enough to pull the latch shut even when adjusted properly. Screw covers and door sweeps match door color for a flawless appearance. I suggest nobody EVER buy another Andersen / EMCO storm door until the Company owns up to its mistakes, treats its customers with respect and honors their warranty. it might be windy aaaaand if it's windy, and you open the door, the door will overextend and ruin the closer strut bending it to oblivion, the door will smash into something the closer bracket will bend and possibly rip part of your partially rotten door jamb off.

Id really like to keep this door because its in good shape otherwise and I dont want three different door styles. After the company installed it, the door rarely shut tight unless I pushed it in, but overall I was very pleased. We will be traveling to Peru: Ancient Land of Mystery.Click Here for info about our trip to Machu Picchu & The Jungle. Can you say play the lottery???? I ordered a glass storm door and had the same problems. For instance the layers of cracked paint and the furrows of scrapped paint make-up a surface than shows it's history. the problem is you can't install a wind chain on the doors now! To schulzc532: Look for an architect that specializes in historic preservation or an historian who consults on building projects for advice on replacing missing elements on the house. My door was destroyed in two seconds when a strong wind caught it as I was leaving the house one day. It looks red-neck but, hell, it's worked fine for 3 years now. I attached the safety chain from the old door - real close to the top - to avoid the roller screen. The 2000 is a full screen and glass. Then a couple weeks ago on a blustery spring Sunday I came home to find the door swung fully (180 degrees) wide.

Andersen should be ashamed of themselves. At Andersen, we pride ourselves in crafting durable, long-lasting products. I'm afraid that if I open it and it's windy and I let go, it will ruin the door. This door is sand in color but was absolutely filthy. On windy days, the door swings open even when in the locked position.

It's not attached securely to its frame. Not sure why but the door latches sometimes, but not all the time. Was told by the installer that he doesn't cover wind damage. Still want to contact Andersen about getting the push button closer. Use the button on the handle set to release the lever from its locked position, then flip the handle in the upward position. Next step is to install a stop on the door frame or ground so the door cant possibly open past 90 deg. At Andersen, we pride ourselves in crafting durable, long-lasting products.

The Andersen/Emco warranty is now voided as a result, but what does it matter? I've got to replace the entire door. Totally frustrated in Wisconsin!!!! Then I put a super heavy-duty closer spring to pull the door shut, and several small magnets on the door frame to hold the door closed. Empowering, refreshing and celebrating your DIY lifestyle, Warm Today, Cold Tomorrow: How Low-E Door Glass Helps. It was too much work. Most problems here seem to be install related.



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