The lab performed ASTM G-122 Standard testing, which is designed to measure the effectiveness of cleaning agents. I have used Zep purple to dissolve the aluminum out of plugged up end mills. If no hot water pressure washer, mineral spirits in a spray bottle, blow gun, repeat if necessary. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Any just seeing what everyones plays were . It will remove anything. We always brought Greased Lightning back with us from trips to the US, it impressed me the most removing 20 years of 2 stroke mess under the hood of an 88 Polaris Indy Trailcutting through that oily mess easily down to the plastic/aluminum underneath. This degreaser may sacfirice performance on tough grease, but it had the best performance on oily surfaces, was by far the safest to use, and was among the least expensive. There was a discussion of the proper way to clean an old machine on one of the email groups recently. Themost aggressive cleaner / degreaser from Vector Chemicals! If You Have To Hunt For Parts washer Solvent Tractor Supply Has A Good Product for around 30 bucks a 5 G. Pail, I Started with two and will Just add 1 This Summer.

That said, Simple Green is still the "greener" choice. You are using an out of date browser. Gasoline, but be careful to avoid sparks around the fumes. Simple green also works great on greasy laundry (keeps the grease in suspension so it doesnt stick to the washer) and I even use it highly diluted to do regular kitchen counter cleanings. $.03 per ounce; 86% effective on oil, 43% effective on grease; 64% overall score. Non-Haz, HMIS 1/2/1/B. But can't touch a true solvent like white gas. $.83 per ounce; 94% effective on oil, 55% effective on grease; 74% overall score. Body Shop Lubricants, Oil Eaters, Soaps, Etc. Similar to Simple Green in performance on both oil and grease at 6 times the cost of Simple Green. I rarely use my brand of PC undiluted - it is pretty rough on paint / powder coat like that and offers little advantage. $.20 per ounce; 63% effective on oil, 8% effective on grease; 36% overall score. Wow that stuff is good! Non-Haz, HMIS 1/2/0/B. See "Detailed Test Protocol" at the bottom of this document if you would like to learn more about how we tested. rite 40oz

Ive never thought simple green was worth a damn for oil in comparison to purple power or super clean. Bead blasting (is that not destructive?) Most window frames / flashing / trim and many other things are aluminum and can be destroyed by it. I use lye dissolved in water to clean aluminum prior to anodizing - just a quick dip, 10 seconds or so, mostly to remove any skin oils from handling.

Might try copytech's DIY cleaner too. Water-based, use at full strength or dilute, $51 per gallon. Industrial Cleaners, Descalers & (unless you want to re-polish it, Don't mean to harp on this but the MSDS is very different in terms of eye contact, skin contact, inhalation and ingestion when comparing Simple Green to Zep Purple (as example). Ive never added it to a HW mix though. I Don't, I clean off what I can By Hand then Soak In Cleaner and scrap some more, Then It may need some wire brush by now and when that's off I dry it and soak it in My Parts Washer, That has 4 year old cleaner in it that I can Still see through. Brakeclean for nuclear duty. $.40 per ounce; 97% effective on oil, 7% effective on grease; 52% overall score. RCRA Hazwaste, HMIS 3/1/0/B. The low sticker price might be attractive to many, but it comes with fairly low performance and among the highest health hazards of the degreasers we tested. It's available from O'Reillys. Oven cleaner is a powerful cleaner/degreaser, no doubt. Don't recall the thread mentioned. That's right, over 300k of its life behind a throttle body 350 so you can imagine the layer of oil, dirt, etc that it took off, https://m.harborfreight.com/engine-cleaning-gun-68290.html?utm_referrer=direct%2Fnot%20provided, This isn't the one we used, but a HF version of the SnapOn. $.24 per ounce; 96% effective on oil, 87% effective on grease; 91% overall score. #14 Rated: CRC Brakleen Non-chlorinated Brake Cleaner. Smells bad but better than gasoline. Buy it from the $.99 store, it works the same as $7/can stuff. According to the instructions, 15:1 was the strongest recommended dilution. Some is fresh, some is caked on real good. I reach for brake cleanas often as I reach for degreaser. Oil has gotten on the crank and as a result everywhere in the front which is why I need to clean it up to find it. I need to clean the old dirty grease out of the bearings and my usual technique was to take off one bearing shield and throw the lot into PC overnight, then rinse out, air dry and repack with fresh grease. We took those results, pricing and any health hazards as listed on SDS to create "the full picture.". Simple green for regular duty. Much better than any of my current degreasers. .It still gets pretty cold (even with the indian summer).. 99 7.3 diesel. E85 works pretty good for cleaning and only costs $3 a gallon. And do any of you use a degreaser in your house wash mix ?Thanks pwra! I'm thinking a front main, but can't safely rule out oil cooler or hpop. I even use it in the laundry! If this is your first visit, be sure to i use zep degreaser on heavy machinery/large engine repairs.works very well. Maybe it gets better with age? It's not instant, it's all about rate of reaction, depends on temperature, concentration and surface area, small coal burns faster than big coal as my chemistry lecturer used to say, there is a danger of rounding off corners on precision parts though. You definitely don't want to use that stuff on polished aluminum. MWXE6FU6u3Jx1CjpNSjTCwQN8NW4jyoq2YBrRiNVoR0etc1LtInsgIjwKRKNR2EQ. I dilute mine 2:1 (one gallon of PC make 3 gallons of solution) for most heavy degreasing and cleaning. Non-Haz, HMIS 1/0/0/B. The lady who did the saw sharpening had a vat of caustic cleaner that makes the retail varieties look downright wimpy. Use sparingly and cautiously. Purchased in 98 or 99. We selected 15 leading general purpose industrial degreasers, both water- and solvent-based. EZoff is the strong one, Mr. If you don't mind sacrificing a couple points of performance for low price, the low hazard profile and readily biodegradable composition makes this a solid overall choice. Purple power used to be one of my favorites then it started messing with my skin, so I stay away. It will take the anodizing off of aluminum if left to sit though so you need to be slightly careful with it. You just downstream purple power and rinsed a ton and viola? Solvent-based, non-dilutable, $25 per gallon. Lol cornstarch off houses lmao . The solution is also useful to remove the anodized layer on a botched job, but does begin to change the dimensions. a handfull of quarters and a self serve car wash, Some diesel fuel in a coffie can and a paint brush, I have used both Oil Eaters and oven cleaner, both with great results. About 25 years ago I was working in a furniture factory grinding knives and responsible for all of the cutting tools. Yes, you don't leave it in longer then required. Thank you everyone! But I think thats more mild. We wonder if it would be more effective if not so diluted. Leave it overnight and it is mostly gone. I have tried zep purple and orange . Lol. ). 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Avoid use on metals like aluminum, magnesium, copper and zinc. Solvent-based, chlorinated, non-dilutable, $107 per gallon. Working on engines a lot in the past I used it once and went back to super clean to clean parts and tools, Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, Degreaser for oil stains on driveways/sidewalks, Hurricane Heavy-Duty Degreaser Super Concentrate, http://www.wastemin.com/discuss/index.php?threads/industrial-degreaser-performance-ratings-how-the-top-15-degreasers-stack-up.6/#.W4cybqJOmEc. Maybe it is. So, we chose a leading solvent-based and a leading water-based degreaser to see if it was actually true. JavaScript is disabled. All times are GMT-5. Significantly less effective overall than Simple Green at three times the cost and significantly more hazard. #12 Rated: Simple Green Industrial Strength. It's actually a front leak. Thats epic . $.04 per ounce; 92% effective on oil, 53% effective on grease; 73% overall score. One of the old standbys of shops, chlorinated brake cleaner is in fact more effective than non-chlorinated but they are both near the bottom on measured degreasing performance. Something to Consider, After all Mikes looking for Contriverse, !. Some will remove paint, fade wires and etch aluminum. I find super clean and purple power to work better than the Zep. High pressure steam or superheated water. Water-based, readily biodegradable, dilute at 4:1 or greater, $25 per gallon. I figure this will rank up there with politics, religion, and steak preparation in terms of argument potential.. Best readily available, inexpensive all purpose grungy E36 M3 cleaner. http://www.wastemin.com/discuss/index.php?threads/industrial-degreaser-performance-ratings-how-the-top-15-degreasers-stack-up.6/#.W4cybqJOmEc. http://www.wastemin.com/discuss/indratings-how-the-top-15-degreasers-stack-up.6/. I'll just leave this here independent ASTM testing of the top 15 degreasers, seperate ratings for grease and oil, also addresses safety concerns. 2013 Industrial Degreaser Performance Ratings, We tested 15 leading degreasers to help you cut through the grime and hype. I had a funny accident with a really nice Chris King headset (bearing which allows the fork to rotate) and Purple Cleaner. $.13 per ounce; 98% effective on oil, 69% effective on grease; 83% overall score. $.26 per ounce; 97% effective on oil, 43% effective on grease; 70% overall score. Oven cleaner. Do not put degreaser in your hw mix . Avoid use on metals like aluminum, magnesium, copper and zinc. I do recall the process of soaking new aluminum electronic chassis in a lye solution to impart the fresh aluminum with a nice uniform finish. Weston Bye - Author, The Mechatronist column, Digital Machinist magazine. I have used the search bar numerous times and mostly I here ebc is go-to . @bluewave18ft Theres 2 which purple power you use purple power concrete and driveway or cleaner/degreaser ? #3 Rated: Purple Power Industrial Strength Degreaser. was suggested as a non-destructive alternative. We use Black Max at our automotive shop. In both cases, wrap the offending item in plastic so it doesn't dry up and let it rest a while. Save it for brake jobs. Blow dry. Including your skin and the linings of your lungs.. Purple power, diluted 1:1 is my go-to. $.08 per ounce; 97% effective on oil, 53% effective on grease; 75% overall score. From Oct 23, so it's new. Solvent-based, chlorinated, non-dilutable, $22 per gallon (non-aerosol). Yeah, I've used them before and they do work great, but I'd don't have access to one anymore which is why I am looking for something I can buy and spray on. This page was generated at 09:05 PM. I also like Awesome from the dollar store. Don't recall ever hearing any caution about watching over the bath or you will ruin the chassis. Figured id poll the audience before spending money if theres something better and cheaper out now. I consider it the nuclear option, myself. One day about quittin' time the guy who ran the tenon machine gave me a pair of cutterheads to sharpen.

I wonder if its better than purple and orange lol has anyone ever tried this stuff, Mine doesnt specify concrete but has sodium hydroxide in it, This is interesting. RCRA Hazwaste, HMIS 2/3/0/B. I used ZEP purple stuff recently, it was pretty good, but ultimately an acid, so go easy. More than $100 per gallon with PERC and chlorine content, we're not sure why you would use this mid-pack performer. Well, came back the next morning and my lovely black headset was now mottled silver! 180 degree water with some pressure melts it like butter. Ive sworn by superclean for years. Muscle seems to work well for engine compartments with a mix of materials. Purple power, but the key is how its applied for us. Five findings we thought were interesting: 1) The most powerful degreaser was one of the LEAST hazardous. Kerosene for super duty. But, im out and need more. I've been using it (usually "Castrol "super Clean") on chainsaws (some mag alloy, most aluminum) and for cleaning Al for years. Dawn Ultra is watered down Dawn, Water Oil/grease/Dirt All of these things "cept just Dirt REpell water, So why do we wet them to Clean them. Discussion in 'Infographics and Quickstart Guides' started by Andy, Oct 22, 2013. Finish up with Simple Green and a hose. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Degreasers, Double Wall Tanks, Packages and Accessories, DEF is in short supply worldwide. Not at Keller-Heartt! The houses had a sand paper texture on everything. I tried all Sherwin Williams in my area and no luck . I need to degrease the front end of my 99 250 7.3 to help find an oil leak. For what you are going to spend in degreaser - find the nearest truck wash (semi truck) and have them degrease the underhood area, wont cost but about 20 -30 bucks and the mess is al theres to clean up. Only the greaser. $.15 per ounce; 61% effective on oil, 57% effective on grease; 59% overall score. #7 Rated: Enviro Solutions Heavy Duty Degreaser. $.06 per ounce; 99.6% effective on oil, 7% effective on grease; 54% overall score. A HEAVY-DUTY degreaser for oil-based grease and grime on any surface including concrete, stone, siding and metal. I bet they are the same thing, @blue wave I just look at both of there sds sheets and check it out, @bluewave18ft purple power concrete and driveway looks more powerful, Now I just looked zep.also.makes a concrete and masonry cleaner . Water-based, readily biodegradable, may be disposed in sanitary sewer, dilute at 1:1 or greater, $16 per gallon. Pablo Eklund's 124 FIAT Spider Convertible, Compete against GRM project cars in this years $2000 Challenge, Share the love for a chance to win a Mazda MX-5 race car. You must log in or register to reply here. After converting and driving a grease car for 4-5 years, the only thing that removed dried up veggie oil was oven cleaner. FYI, Indian summer phenomenon occurs only in the Autumn. 2013 Industrial Degreaser Ratings (print version).pdf, http://www.wastemin.com/discuss/indratings-how-the-top-15-degreasers-stack-up.6/, http://www.zepprofessional.com/pdf/onesheets/R089.pdf, http://www.enviromfg.com/pdf/SynClean HD Literature WSO.pdf, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. Silo elevator overflowed on a windy wet day. There are these siphon things you hook up to an air hose that blasts the 50/50 PP and water at high pressure creating kind of a foam degreaser blaster that will take a 315k mile 700r4 down to shiny metal in a few minutes. It dulls the paint more than it materially corrodes the aluminum. But it doesn't seem to be as good as it used to be. Indeed. You'll be amazed at how clean it can get- the nooks and inside corners is where the MS shines. I thought gearheads outside the industrial/machine shop realm would like to finally have some independent testing on degreasers! I found a really old squirt bottle of P.Power in my late grandmothers basement. Spent some time with fine sandpaper and polish, now it's a somewhat polished silver. Had to hand scrub some of it with purple Power diluted 50/50, but most of 3 sides of each house was just down streamed. That stuff will eat aluminum. Water-based, dilute at 15:1 or greater, $25 per gallon. I dont but Ive heard of guys putting dragon juice in there HW mix . check out the, Zep Industrial Purple Cleaner and Degreaser. All rights reserved. I've used Simple Green, and Purple Power, and it took some of the fresh stuff off, but didn't touch the old stuff. Non-Haz, HMIS 0/0/0/NA. Simple green in strong concentrations does great things. Im sure it was s disaster LMAO but such an epic story cornstarch all over houses hahah, Thanks @bluewave18ft just what I was looking for, I like that it gave a grease and an oil rating. During that discussion, it was repeatedly stated that Zep Industrial Purple Cleaner, a lye-based cleaning solution available in the US, and other similar cleaners will destroy aluminum parts, and aluminum alloy parts. It is a great spot treatment for grease. 2022 Motorsport Marketing. Most degreasers have caustic soda in them .

Water-based, dilute at 4:1 or greater, $21 per gallon. Lol I wish there was just one for everything, Ive never seen one labeled for concrete and driveway. View DEF Products >, Automotive Chemicals & Maintenance Fluids. What are all of your favorite degreasers just want see what else some of you use beside ebc before I go ahead and order it . Once you finish or get it good enough, get a kit and put some oil dye in it and run it for a day or 2, then check. I had to downstream purple power to get cornstarch off of some houses and rinsed and rinsed and rinsed It worked awesome to clean the house, but like mentioned above dont let it stay there. What type of houses were they @squidskc, Vinyl houses. #11 Rated: CRC Brakleen Chlorinated Brake Cleaner. Just sounds hilarious . These had HSS knives in aluminum bodies, and I didn't give it a thought, I just dropped them into the saw cleaner vat and headed out the door to go home. Tal-strip is my nuclear option. #9 Rated: ZEP Industrial Purple Degreaser. BEST SELLER and 5 out of 5 on the POWER scale! Looks like dollar store oven cleaner is my first go. will oven cleaner hurt the rubber or electrical components? I have tried all kinds of degreasers and was disappointed with everything except for oven cleaner. Oven cleaner is amazing. We purchased the degreasers at retail and had them shipped directly to an independent lab with expertise in solvent testing. It's not safe and I don't recommend it, but gasoline does a great job. Hot water pressure washer. Careful with the oven cleaner! Simple green 99% of the time, Dawn Ultra the other. It's this damned stoichiometric thingy, 2Al+2NaOH+H2O, little arrow to right!2NaAlO2+3H2. RCRA Hazwaste, HMIS 2/1/0/B. I use the purple stuff, a brush and a pressurewasher, I haven't met any grease I couldn't get off. in addition, how do you keep all the goop that comes off with a power wash or solvent from just moving to your nice floor or driveway pavement?

There is a belief out there that water-based degreasers promote rust, so we wanted to test that, as well. $.12 per ounce; 98% effective on oil, 69% effective on grease; 83% overall score. Too long and it imparts a matte finish to the object. Both are pretty decent im leaning more towards the purple if I had to choose a better one. The windows looked like they were frosted on the side they were hit directly. The leaked oil will fill the valley and then run out the drain hole in the rear where it will look like a rear main seal leak.



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