Ive met several younger people (25 and below) who are very interested in discussing my cameras and film photography when they see me out and about with one of my many old cameras.
Imagine thinking Wow, well at least we still have Pro 400H.. Regards. It certainly hurts more to see a professional grade film be discontinued than say, a consumer film like Agfa Vista (in spite of my own personal feelings.) Your outcomes on a new stock, whichever you decide on, are going to boil down to a mix of three things. SHOULD I TEST A NEW FILM ALONGSIDE MY FUJI 400H? I imagine thats a passionate topic for people drinking Pepsi one that fans of the Chicago White Sox or Los Angeles Clippers could appreciate but no one confuses Pepsi as the worlds best-selling cola. Even if they worked, the mercury oxide PX625 1.35v cells have been unavailable for the past 30 years. Guess I am going back to Ektar 100 again, once I finish the last rolls of 400H in my freezer. As an owner of more than a few cassette, thems fighting words! The laziest way to look at Fuji and Kodak is by treating them as equal competitors. All details in our privacy policy. They went on to say that based on the then-current demand, Fuji would be able to allocate Pro 400H in 120 through the end of this year, but that 35mm would be immediately taking that long dirt nap. It makes my heart sing to do this for so many beautiful humans. In this course, I am talking about matching digital and film photos. I wouldnt equate the loss of the emulsion with the riots and insurrections last summer by radical Leftists and BLM across the US. Pro 400H is just the latest of their films to be discontinued (though its worth noting that they have brought back Acros.)
Read the news and absorb many hot takes. Speaking of testing, were doing our own in-depth testing now on different ways to shoot and process other stocks to see what steps will help get Kodak stocks looking closer to Fujifilm. Learn how here. Press J to jump to the feed. Stephen Wood of Photovision Prints mentioned that Kodak Portra 400 would be the best alternative to Fujifilm PRO 400H at the moment. After clicking the purchase button on my five-pack of 120 rolls, I started thinking about that headline. When each line runs out, they announce its discontinuation. See the news alert. Not sure why superia 400 isn't further up here. Portra 800 is actually a stock that many Fuji shooters already turn to once the light gets low and they need a higher speed film. Photographers will keep using them and we will be seeing more of 400H's beautiful color palette. Check the sample scans below. Privacy Policy, Color Profile vs Color Pac (It's Probably Not What You Think! Both images were scanned on Noritsu for a neutral color balance and neutral density (lightness/darkness). But have hope! And cameras and film stocks are just tools to achieve beautiful photos. Honestly mostly Id be worried about all the Portra shooters eating up my 400H supply. The look of Fujifilm PRO 400H won't disappear overnight, of course. This was a great film. One of the reasons this film visually melds so well with Fuji 400H (which has a more neutral cool base) is that it tends to render less red tones than Portra 400. During that three-job window, theres one key thing you must consider and communicate to the lab: what didnt you like? Dont forget about 8-track, which has to be worse than casssettes. Companies making this kind of decision usually hide behind corporate speak to mollify the angry mob.
I document the real moments - the achingly beautiful ones. And I have covered Fujifilm PRO 400H and Kodak Portra 400 editing in this course. Our focus is always first and foremost on the appearance of skin tones, and we have been able to successfully match preferred styles with a little work and a lot of communication. Silvergrain Classics is brought to you by Silvergrain Publishing UG. I am offering mentoring sessions and resources to photographers to step up their business. This way, youll get even more insight into the entire world of analog photography, and we can keep on with providing this free, but well researched editorial online content for everyone to enjoy! As other film labs suggested, Richard Photo Lab also suggests using Noritsu scanner over Frontier scanner, since it gives the lab more control over the final appearance of the scans. ALL IMAGES COPYRIGHT CAGDAS YOLDAS PHOTOGRAPHY 2022, QUEBEC & ONTARIO BASEDWEDDING PHOTOGRAPHER, CAPTURINGLOVESTORIES NEARANDFAR, ALL IMAGES BY CAGDAS YOLDAS PHOTOGRAPHY 2022. If you want to support us, you might consider a subscription to our magazine.
its interesting how people overlook Adox silvermax being discontinued. It just wasnt hyped like Portra. By purchasing anything using these links, Casual Photophile may receive a small commission at no additional charge to you. Not all is lost, and in the future, we might very well see a new or updated emulsion to replace Pro 400H. Portra is much sharper and finer-grained. Kodak absolutely has a bigger market share and pushes out more new products for film photographers than Fuji, but thats because they have to. Which means that there is no fully standard Fujifilm look, and therefore there is no uniform quick fix that everyone (or the lab) can make across the board in this situation. As far as Fuji is saying, Pro 400H isnt going away from a lack of sales. We have gone through the "film switch" with many photographers who built their color profile when they were shooting Fuji 400H. When you can really pinpoint what visual elements you dont like, we can work together to figure out the cause. I dont mean this to sound like Im kicking a film when its down. I didnt buy five rolls in the wake of the announcement so that I could grift on it down the road, but because I took some pretty decent images with it and I want the chance to do it again someday. We have a guideline at Richard called the 3 jobs rulewe usually use it in the context of switching to a new lab, but it also applies to this scenario. WHAT IF I BUILT MY COLOR PROFILE USING FUJI 400H? That flexibility can come in handy as you're figuring out exactly what you can do with a new stock.
As a newer piece of technology, it gives the lab better control over the final appearance of your scans.
And if you tested the two scanners with your Fuji 400H and found you preferred the Frontier, the idea of switching might sound a little "iffy". Have some rolls scanned on both scanners so you can compare the results and see what you like best! Our goal was not at all to make Portra 400 look like Fuji 400h. I was thinking lomo 400 or possibly some 200 speed film such as c200? it also lacks consistency 4th layer of Pro 400H makes it look equally good in every situation, while Porta is tempremental, it can be beautiful on one shot and sucks completelly on another. granting or withdrawing consent, click here. If you do choose to compare the films apples to apples, then youve got to be willing to accept this: your results will be an illustration of the fact that, while you can get different stocks to look similar, they will not be exactly the sameand there is no magical way to make it so. In fact, it is VITAL! Portra 800 compliments Fuji 400H quite well. Fuji is much more likely to make decisions like discontinuing a film because theyre less reliant on that films success than the folks in Rochester are on theirs. 61231 Bad Nauheim The Pro 400H vs. Portra debate has always felt like arguing Coke vs. Pepsi, or even Dr. Pepper vs. Mr. Pibb. Communicating your scan preferences precisely (especially as they relate to skin tones, because that is where we apply them first and foremost) is probably the most valuable thing you can do when sending in your new stock choices. The truth is, you cant cheat film and the lab processfolks have tried for years, and we have yet to see it happen. Can you clear these out, or at least sort the listings so the sold out films dont dominate the search? HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO GET MY LOOK ON A NEW FILM? The first is how you expose your filmit may very well be the number one influencer of a final film image. Yes. If you enjoy our online articles, this might interest you: We provide these articles free of any charge. WHAT SCANNER SHOULD I USE WITH MY NEW STOCK? Make sure to check my online course Hybrid Photo Editing Guide. The younger generations born and raised in the digital soup are yearning for analog, tactile experiences. Get some Fuji Pro 400H (likely marked up) on eBay, Buy some consolation film from our shop F Stop Cameras. So, I came to completelly different conclusion. This helps Casual Photophile produce the content we produce. For those who look closely enough, there are silver linings already. Was it your exposure? Because Portra 400 has a yellow base and if it is not rated properly the color of the skin may look way off for darker skins. They mention that Kodak Portra 400 and Kodak Portra 800 are the strongest film stock options. 2. We use those preferences as a target for your scans, and the target itself doesnt really change because youre using a new stockit just changes one of the materials were aiming with. The photos in this article are just great. While nobody can say for certain what Fuji will, or for that matter, will not do in the future, not all is lost, and hope is not in vain. Well, I was happy with Pro 400H, but when Portra 400 came out, I tried it out and noticed a big improvement in sharpness and lack of grain. As Kodachrome 25 and 64 are no longer with us, I have used a Velvia 50 for slides but relied on ae in a pair of R-E bodies. I love the first one especially with the boat. The lighting? When you master exposure on a new film stock and find the sweet spot for your look/style, you give the lab a better negative. Pro 400H was Fujis alternative to Kodaks Portra 400, but its going too far to call them equals. We do this, because we want to contribute something to the Analog Community, free for everyone to enjoy. The best time to talk about the fact that youve made a switch is AFTER youve gotten some scans back on a new stock. I use them in all my old Olympus and Minoltas, as well as my Original Canon F-1. 400H was a great film. Well share everything weve learned with you as soon as we can! The second is how the lab handles your film, because the same negative can be scanned many different ways. Nothing from Fuji compare to Ektar 100, Tmax 400, TriX, ProImage 100, The 2 only best Fuji are Velvia 50 and Neopan Acros, 2 films, yes very good, how many have only think with Fuji Film before, what about now ? I switched then and there. The tendency is always to overreact to bad news, in our case, a film being discontinued. ), Communicating your scan preferences precisely. They suggest photographers to test different photo stocks to find out what works best for them. Period. Although many sources highlight that the stocks for PRO 400H will probably be available until the end of 2021. Yes, there is enough Fuji 400H left in the world that you wont be forced to switch immediately. Because Portra 400 has a yellow base and because Noritsu primarily works in the magenta and green channel, so there is less yellow in the scans. Wonder what are the special raw materials and chemicals that have become too difficult to acquire?
Richard Photo Lab also warns the photographers not to overexpose their Kodak films. This is the sister sub of r/analog, where all of the non-photo-sharing stuff happens! And you should definitely do that with the other stocks you're testing. I accept only a select number of weddings each year to preserve creativity and ensure each couple receives the quality of service they deserve. While certainly, the discontinuation of yet another emulsion by the Japanese behemoth is not good news, not all is lost. So, I switched. And it seems cassettes tapes the worst of all analog music transmission mediums are selling again, as well. Just look at vinyls comeback. More stories and more inspiration are on my Instagram! One thing is for sure though: While frustration is a legitimate response, crying for a boycott and being childishly stubborn and opinionated about a seemingly evil company wont help, but hurt. The ones that give meaning to our lives. Good news, but also bittersweet notice the higher price tag for the new and improved Acros. Seconding this, C200 is definitely my go to for 35mm. Barely catch your breath before the cycle starts again. Also available on Ebay. Sometimes we have to approve comments for whatever reason. If you take one hard-and-fast piece of advice from this blog (besides the importance of testing), let it be this: DONT OVEREXPOSE YOUR KODAK FILM!!! The other option they suggest is Kodak Portra 160. In their blog post they are talking about pretty much the same technical details that Stephen Wood mentioned. Germany, Fuji 400H Discontinuation Not All is Lost; An Unpopular Opinion. And that is an important distinction. Thankfully we can say more for Pro 400H. In the last few years they have resurrected both P3200 and Ektachrome and have hinted early this year that their 2021 plans include bringing one new film to market and bringing another back from the dead. You CAN learn to expose your new stock in a different way to get results you love. As far as conspiracy theories go thats a good one. Jeb Inge is a Berlin-based photographer and writer. We want to be honest with you about what is possible and what isnt, what you can expect when transitioning to a new stock, and give you practical tips for getting through this not just painlessly, but with flying colors (wink). I have a lot of respect for Kodak and their commitment to keeping film manufacturing going so of course I will support them. Copyright 2014-2020, F Stop Cameras LLC, All Rights Reserved. Overexposing your Kodak film increases saturation and it makes the red tones in the base more prominentthe exact thing that makes it different from Fuji 400H. The data sheets even list the same number of LP/mm I think. To my eyes (and it seems to eyes of most non US people) Portra never looks anywhere close to this good. Is it extra work for you? The news that Fujifilm will stop producing their PRO 400H film has hit film photographers like a ton of bricks. Through the process, the number one wrench in the works has always been photographers exposing Kodak film like Fujifilm (aka, overexposing it). They remember it for the commercial where Michael Jacksons head caught on fire. This was a big shock for many photographers including me. 3. In the past, Fuji have used this specific reason to discontinue an emulsion only once, for Acros I. He said that Kodak Portra 400 is easily the closest in terms of exposure settings as 400H. I dont think we should be worried about film disappearing altogether. You can and communication throughout the process of switching films is key to your success.
The reason given for the discontinuation was the emlusions unique fourth layer that required special raw materials and chemicals that have become too difficult to acquire. C200 is a pretty underrated film generally, but its usefulness depends greatly on your conditions. I think its fair to say that Fuji has been responsible for bringing the most interesting cameras to market for the last few years. We, Silvergrain Publishing UG (limited liability) (Registered business address: Germany), process personal data for the operation of this website only to the extent technically necessary. That consistency then carries over to your photographs. In their discontinuation notice, Fuji have stated they havent discontinued the film because of declining sales, but because procuring a necessary raw material for the emulsion has either become increasingly difficult, or economically unfeasible. Ill admit to never being a huge 400H fan myself, am more a fan of Superiaconsidering that also has the 4th color layer technology, Im wondering how long before thats axed too. Kodak is the company that is actually supporting their customer base while Fuji it would seem is just trying to wring as much money out of them as possible before pulling the rug out from under them. In measurable metrics like sales, and less measurable ones like prestige, Portra 400 has been the unchallenged big cheese for years. This is a hard time for film and hybrid photographers to take a direction for the future of their businesses. Its really a shame that this film is being discontinued. 4. Superia latitude isn't as good as 400h tho, so portra 400 is another alternative and some labs can colour correct your portra to be more cool toned and like 400h. The manufacturers just arent keeping up. But it is not a good replacement for 120 format. Lastly is the view, and by that we mean your view as a photographer (dont be hypercritical, even though it can be really hard not to be), and your client/intended audience's view (will they notice all the minute things you do, will it change how they experience your work?).
Noticeably absent was any mention of film produced by the company that takes longer than a minute or two to develop. Fujifilms booth was more the size of a baseball infield and was dominated equally by digital cameras and the Instax division, which was covered with its collaboration with Taylor Swift. We dont track you to sell your data, and we dont bombard you with arbitrary and annoying ads. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. We said as much in our article all about it. Pro 400H has been my go to film stock for years now so I was very sad to see the recent news. It has many similarities like; the speed, the fine grain, and the natural color saturation. Interesting article. What do we think of the Internets idea that Fuji hasnt made any film for years, and is just using up its remaining frozen stock? Give it at least three jobs to start really loving your scans (if it's sooner, then hooray!). Its just too yellow, orange and red and you can never really get the color cast out, no matter of the scanner or exposure. Try to process it.
I was wondering what some of you think the best alternative would be? Great article, but your film shop is dominated by sold out listings. I mostly use Gold 200, Vision2 500T and Vision2 50D for 135 these days anyways. Nah. The supply of consumer grade negative films like Fujicolor 200 is very spotty. Its the same thing with all the cameras that are perfectly fine but cost way more than they should because certain circles are obsessed with them people see photos they like, those photos are on portra with an rb, and so they buy those two things with the assumption that will give them artistic talent.
You simply cannot expose Kodak film the way you do Fujifilm. The announcement also made clear that this raw material shortage is only affecting Pro 400H and not Fujis slide, consumer, and black and white films. Viewed through the same prism, Fujifilm would appear to be on a downward trajectory. Its a shame any time we lose a film. This is about getting the BEST results, not the SAME results. We can make the necessary tweaks together when you are switching to a new stock. A password reset link will be sent to you by email. They work great. Its not the same degree of consolation, is it? There are still many film emulation presets and profiles out there. Its also important to remember that your film choice is just one variable of shootingother choices you make influence the look of your final photos. Theres no denying that Pro 400H had many devoted fans (especially amongst medium format wedding shooters talk about a niche within a niche), or that its a great film. Do NOT underestimate this step. 35mm i would suggest fuji superia 400 and the fujicolor 200. they're pretty similar. in > But I do think were hyping something in death that we never really hyped while it was alive. Good grain, yallYES! Im not from USA and I never caught on with Portra, especially 400 and especially for people (interesting since its mostly meant to be a portraiture film). Yup. Well Chris, I get digital Johnnys of all ages staring at my Leicaflex SL cameras all the time: I carry a pair of Leicaflex SL bodies and 35/2-50/2-90/2.8 and a Gossen Lunalite meter as my inbuilt meters are defunct. But you can not meter your Kodak film the same way. We cover these costs with our quarterly print magazine SilvergrainClassics, and we are mighty proud of it. 5. i do also like kodak gold 200 and ultramax 400. might be slightly warmer but it's basically the cheap equivalent to fuji. I would always keep the better quality product over the cheaper one, though I know arguments can be made the other way. Fujifilm is a much bigger beast than your typical film manufacturer, with priorities to match. However, doing this is not exactly free for us: We pay our editorial staff, have operating costs and need to keep our business running. Photographers are looking for alternative film stocks to achieve a similar look of Fujifilm PRO 400H. But true, that could be something to watch out for. They removed the 4th layer from superia years ago, apparently. If you live in New Jersey, there is a source who has the 400H in 35mm for local pickup only: https://www.uniquephoto.com/fujifilm%2Dfilm/fujifilmpro400h1353615942186. Or motoring. Fuji even admitted that public outcry was a motivating factor in the resurrection. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Starting with better ends with better, plain and simple. With the announcement of the discontinuation of Fujis Pro 400H color negative film in 135 and 120 formats today, an angry group of photographers online can be observed, rambling through forums and social media with virtual pitchforks and torches, crying out to never again patronize Fuji, or simply, to F*ck Fuji. But it doesnt need to be reserved for only low light. More on that next. The fear factor of losing Pro 400H seems to center on the fact that the number of choices for professional-grade 400 speed films has gone from two, down to one. cinestill might be another option if you can afford it.
However, I have always disliked battery dependent cameras. In the meantime, a boycott of Acros II, Velvia and Provia, for which some angry photographers online have been calling, will only hurt the cause of traditional photography, and send the wrong signals. This is the wrong approach: An unpopular opinion. Also, if youre a medium format shooter, Fujifilm does not make any other stocks in 120so you will also lose some of the characteristics of shooting medium format that you love. And certainly, the level of frustration felt by many photographers concerning this mornings grim news is understandable as well. But the truth is, it is all about delivering beautiful photos to your clients. While certainly, the discontinuation of yet another emulsion by the Japanese behemoth is not good news, not all is lost. We wont pretend that you can carry on shooting as you always have and that the lab can magically make your photos look just like they did on Fuji 400H (as nice as that might be to hear in the moment). Richard Photo Lab highlighted the features of each film stock. So now that the dust has settled on the Pro 400H coffin, here are a few thoughts I still have on the issue. Just look it up. The reasoning behind the move also keeps the door open to speculation whether Fuji could bring back Pro 400H if and when the supply chain issues are resolved. The reason why it blends with Fuji 400H so well is it has a more neutral color base and tends to render less red tones than Portra 400. Certainly differences are perceptible side-by-side, but imagine what we could do by adressing exposure & scanning adjustments and keeping an open mind. The scanning technicians eye? So I think it is logical to expect the film to be in the market for over a year or so. Their mirror-less line of cameras trail blazed a path away from the homogeneously designed DSLR of decades past, and they should win some sort of Nobel prize for making quality digital medium format cameras (if not affordable, than at least) attainable. While Pro 400H, properly exposed (2, 3 or more stops overexposure) just shines becomes creamy and georgeous as your photos of Italy clearly show that to me they are as good as it gets. While this answer will be different for everyone, Portra 400 and Portra 800 are certainly the strongest contenders. But rambling through social media will not help either. Seeing the same shot side-by-side on different stocks can be a great way to compare the inherent qualities of a film stock. But I do think were hyping something in death that we never really hyped while it was alive. Because it was so widely used and many film or hybrid photographers were relying their brand look on this film stock. [Some of the links in this article will direct users to our affiliates at B&H Photo, Amazon, and eBay. He also said that Fujifilm's consumer film stock C200 could be a decent replacement for 35mm version of 400H. But check out how similar they can look without even trying! While they are the only company to offer a range of slide film, Fujis offerings pale in comparison to those from Kodak. Whatever. The current supply chain issues with color negative film are to say the least very concerning. Fuji knows where the money and growth is, and if you needed any proof of that, you could see it first hand at the last (and now we know, the final) Photokina in 2019.
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