I'm still using my Epson R3000 and I've been very happy with the results.
At the low-end of the market, anywhere from $100 to $300, youll find quite a few new or recent rather inexpensive all-in-one as well as some single-function inkjet printers, which do an OK job on photos, but not generally what pros or even enthusiasts are looking for. The printers tout a new 10-channel MicroPiezo AMCTM printhead to increase productivity, with dedicated channels for both Photo and Matte Black ink types no ink switching necessary. The new SureColor P700 and SureColor P900 are the smallest professional 13 and 17-inch printers in their class, with a 30 percent size reduction from Epsons previous generation printers, and are designed for use in photography, graphic design, fine art, and illustration. The new SureColor P700 and SureColor P900 are the smallest professional 13 and 17-inch printers in their class, with a 30 percent size reduction from Epsons previous generation printers, and are designed for use in photography, graphic design, fine art, and illustration.
Original contents copyright 2020 by Michael C. Johnston. Now I'm curious about the cost of the P900 ink, since I noticed immediately the smaller capacity compared to the P800. Also if you ever consider one, you need to know, and Canon don't tell you, that when formatting your output JPEG it needs to be in 'Baseline (standard)' settingI have absolutely no idea what the means but it won't be possible to print it out if it is another format); and a cheapish Samsung laser printer. --Mike] I finally gave up when it became apparent mine would never respond after many rounds of cleaning.

In North America, Epson locked down the ink cartridges on the P800, which means you can't use third party inks or refillable cartridges without defeating their security somehow.
The Epson SureColor P900 (pictured) can print on media up to 17 inches wide. Mike replies: That one is a nice solution for color mavens, but it would be out for me because it lacks the monochrome capability of its pricier sibs. If you absolutely must have that high-end pigment option, you should probably listen to Gordon. I order my photo stuff from B&H and Amazon, and as soon as I put any Epson item on my cart, it rejects it saying, this item does not ship to your country. Richard Man | Thursday, 23 April 2020 at 08:55 AM.
Posted by: Wednesday, 22 April 2020 at 04:26 PM, Mike, Ink lightfastness rating based on accelerated testing of prints on specialty media, displayed indoors, under glass.
Note, not a new one. While I have not seen any Wilhelm tests for my ChromaLife 100+ inks, I imagine the permanence of manufacturer ink and paper will make me happy for years to come. In the world of technology, five to six years is almost an era! No items to compare.
That's right, 100, not 1000.
They got me to stay away from Epson entirely.
But its been quite a while since the three main inkjet printer manufacturesEpson, Canon, HPhave refreshed or overhauled their mid-range, desktop inkjet printers in the 13-inch to 17-inch range. Designed to help photographers reproduce every detail of their creative vision, the new SureColor P700 and SureColor P900 incorporate a range of features to produce exhibition quality prints from the convenience of a desktop: The SureColor P700 ($799 MSRP) and SureColor P900 ($1,295 MSRP) will be available through Epson Authorized Resellers starting in May.
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A short video (~8m 30s) by Keith Cooper. Replacing the award-winning SureColor P600 and SureColor P800, these new printers draw from over 20 years of experience to incorporate the same large format printing technology used by the worlds leading photographers into a sleek, compact design, allowing for the creation of exhibition quality prints from the convenience of the desktop. All the newness in a nutshell: In case you think you're going to get a grand deal on a closeout P800, forget it. Posted by: I wonder how many of them experienced darkroom printing and all its required work and potential issues. If you are an enthusiast who prints infrequently, they are the way to go. In any case, the Canon has a replaceable head so it can be replaced if ever completely clogged, unlike Epson which forces you to buy a new printer.
I don't do a huge amount of printing, so it sometimes sits for up to months on end without being used, and then I will crank out a hundred or so prints.
Posted by: I'm not a well known photographer, have never sold a print (and don't intend to ever sell one), so the end result's aesthetic appeal is my primary criterion.
Is one printer a better choice than the other how do they compare in size and printing? I have been priced out of a lot of the things I used to do. I have 12x18 inch prints hanging on my walls that are 5 years old and still look great.
The first thing that catches my attentionwell, the second thing that catches my attention is that the inkset now has 10 inks and two blacks, which means no switching between blacks. I'm waiting for color laser printers with photo quality to become available. If you go the whole hog and mix your own dilution base from raw ingredients, the ink costs can be a low as 1% of typical colour inks. I gotta print. I think you may have taken in a little too much of the Epson marketing spiel.
Thursday, 23 April 2020 at 08:47 AM.
Had set my heart on the Canon Pro 1000 but now may need to await the interweb reaction to the P900. The SureColor P700 can accommodate both roll and cut sheet media, and the SureColor P900 accommodates cut sheet media and an optional fully enclosed roll media adapter supports both 2-inch and 3-inch rolls and roll printing up to 10 feet long. [Afraid not. Peter Croft | They had the P800 since its inception but nobody buys it.
When my trusty 3880 gives up the ghost, I'll probably switch over to a much used 7880, but those are getting older and scarcer too now.
The SureColor P700 can make prints up to 13 inches wide, and the SureColor P900 increases that to up to 17 inches wide. I am still going strong on the original Epson 3800. 13-inch SureColor P700 and 17-inch SureColor P900 Incorporate Breakthrough Advancements from Large Format Printers to Produce the Highest Quality Prints for the Desktop. Thursday, 23 April 2020 at 02:30 AM. I've been doing this for a couple of years and it comes with the bonus that you can use inexpensive Epson printers (such as Claria ink printers). It's a shame Apple don't make a printer (puts up defence shields), though it probably says something about the difficulties of making a reliable and easy-to-use one that they don't. Gen. #0907906. Other sections include Colour management and Keith's camera hacks - there are over 1200 articles/reviews here Assorted Google ads - sorry but we have no control over external content. Thursday, 23 April 2020 at 04:54 AM. Deal. By Terry Sullivan
Using an updated mobile version of Epson Print Layout software, full support and color management tools are provided for iPhone and iPad printing. No one is going to be surprised, though given that this thread could have been composed any time in the last 20 years or more I guess we might have hoped we could have made at least a tiny bit of progress. P-600 user here, satisfied with print quality but I had a few mechanical problems, feeding system broken twice in three years.
With the introduction of the SureColor P700 and SureColor P900, a new generation of photographers will experience another breakthrough in printing technology truly redefining not only the photographic print but also the printing workflow.. For more on the two new Epson printers, see the press release below: LONG BEACH, Calif. April 21, 2020 Epson, an industry leader in the photography market, today announced a breakthrough in professional printing technology with the introduction of the 13-inch SureColor P700 and 17-inch SureColor P900 desktop photo printers.
I have yet to figure out how to front feed heavier paper stock, the ink tanks are too small and cost too much, and it won't work over wi-fi for some reason. Using an updated mobile version of Epson Print Layout software, full support and color management tools are provided for iPhone and iPad printing.
Another happy user here of the Canon Pixma Pro-10, which I've had for about 5 years.
However, that may be beginning to change: Today, Epson introduced two new models: The Epson SureColor P700, which is a new 13-inch wide inkjet desktop printer and will cost $799, and the 17-inch Wide Epson SureColor P900, which is a new 17-inch wide inkjet desktop printer and will cost $1,195.
If mine ever kicks the ink bucket I will maybe buy it (or the P1000 by then). MikeR | That chore is a thing of the past with the SureColor P700 and SureColor P900. The new P700 is a desktop 13-inch printer and the new P900 a desktop 17-inch printer. Wednesday, 22 April 2020 at 09:33 PM.
Epson has said that deliveries of the 700 will start in April. Those smallish cartridges are bad news indeed.
Main I am genuinely excited by the black ink switching improvement though, which Canon did some time ago.
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We close every Friday evening to Saturday evening for Shabbat. The new models replace two much older Epson desktop printersthe SureColor P600 (introduced in the fall of 2014) and SureColor P800 (introduced in the spring of 2015). Each time a new printer is announced, I think seriously about getting one.
For additional information, visit www.proimaging.epson.com. My experience of printing is now from some time ago. The P800 is still on sale here, A$1596 = US$1,005.
I'm sure the prints are lovely when the thing works but I wouldn't ever take that chance again.
I only ever wanted to print B&W, a sort of darkroom replacement, so the colour printers were never really ideal. It's good to see Epson keeps improving their products.
Wednesday, 22 April 2020 at 04:38 PM, "New P900 is the same size as the outgoing P600", Don't you mean the outgoing P800?
The 13-inch SureColor P700 and the 17-inch SureColor P900 will cost $799 and $1,295, respectively, and theyll both be available through Epson Authorized Resellers starting in May. Dick, Posted by: May look into canon after reading two good posts about them.
Well, past time, but, yay. I would love to upgrade to something that did away with these problems.
Over time Ive printed less and less and when I bought my 6D I picked up the PRO-100 from B&H for less than a hundred bucks as part of a package deal. Posted by:
These printers also feature a new print driver mode Carbon Black which dramatically increases Dmax by up to 11 percent, for best-in-class black density and reduced bronzing and gloss differential on glossy papers. The email address you entered was an invalid email. Neil Swanson | Posted by: The SureColor P700 can accommodate both roll and cut sheet media, and the SureColor P900 accommodates cut sheet media and an optional fully enclosed roll media adapter supports both 2-inch and 3-inch rolls and roll printing up to 10 feet long. Jeff | :-( If the new carts cost 5/8ths of what the old ones did, I will eat my hat with salt and ketchup.
The Epson SureColor P700 has most of the same features, but a smaller maximum print size of up to 13 inches wide. Epson also overhauled the printers software. The 3880 is still going strong, so Ill see how well the P900 goes over. The first thing I did when I bought my Epson 3880 is sell the entire set of unused colour inks so I could install my own inks. Add at least two items to compare.
Please enable javascript for your best B&H experience. Gosh, a lot of folks complaining about Epson printers and/or the difficulty of inkjet printing in general. I got the Canon Pixma-Pro 10 which is the 13" wide competition for the P600 and now P700. Maybe Epson? But of course that can be said about a lot of things. Wednesday, 22 April 2020 at 05:34 PM. It ain't a photo till it's a print. Glossy papers with pigmented inks, while capable of good blacks, produce prints that are, to my taste, over-the-top shiny.
Store #0906712 Elec. Sal Santamaura | Here are other new or improved features on the new Epson models: Additionally, Epson says it has a new mode called Carbon Black mode, which provides a super-high DMAX. Dye inks, not pigmented. I will say, however, that ImagePrint software makes workflow (and life) a lot easier by optimizing certain key variables. Deal. I started with 13" printers: the 1280 and, because I wanted to use longer lasting pigment inks, the R1800. Speed up future orders, see order history, create wish lists, and more. They also increased the size of the LCD to a new 4.3-inch touchscreen display.
I'm sure the several years of struggle with my other printer helped, but this one feels like cheating.
Looking at the similarities and differences between the Epson P700 and P900 printers. I have not treated my printer well.
Sigh, Posted by: I am still using my Epson 2880 which I bought many years back, not sure exactly when. Wednesday, 22 April 2020 at 05:18 PM. Best $35 I ever spent on the subject. I have a pair of XP960 printers, one for carbon mono, one for colour, which are 6 channel Claria HD all-in-ones. It has been sitting in the closet since I replaced it with a Canon PRO-100.
I have had issues with getting the wireless connection to work properly, but that's about it. I print a lot so I don't have many problems keeping the heads clear but the R3000 has had a lot of miles put on it and I've had it running since it was first introduced. I'll give a deep look at the P-900 when it will be available in Europe. Both have completely new designs for roll paper support and eliminate black ink switching.
A good eye and good decision making, along with some common sense, have always been key. P.S.
While not yet moved to the closet where my P600 lives, or been "operated on" to incorporate the improvements it needs, it should be. Updated April 30, 2020 That one wouldn't feed right, so back it went.
I have checked av availability regularly since it was announced, but so far with no result. Hate it because, well, you know, the clog.
That, and continued complaints about clogging heads, in the end defeats any initial enthusiasm and I retreat to using Whitewall.
Another improvement of the P700 and P900 compared to their predecessors is a 30-percent reduction in the size of the printers, a nice benefit if you have limited space in your home studio or office.
Smallest footprint and lightest in its class, Enhanced sealing to protect from dust and dirt.
For instance, Epson says that the new P900 is 23 percent smaller than its predecessor, the P800.
The P600 was a pain to use anyway, demanding babying when used with thicker media. Not sure who designated the Epson P600 and P800 as class-leading? Dick Barbour |
The ink tanks lasted quite a while and werent too expensive, it printed about as large as I wanted to print and it rarely clogged. Time and testing (can't wait to see what Mark Segal thinks of them) will tell but I am worried that the new printers will not be able to be used with QTR, my favorite black and white printing RIP. It would be nice to hear from a happy Epson user, wouldn't it? Sign up for the latest photo news and tips for taking your images to the next level.
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It too is a poorly designed, poorly executed product that's made of static-prone plastic and offers no evidence any effort was made to counter the dust-attracting effect that has on its glass as well as film originals. I created bespoke ICC profiles for several papers (see the full reviews for lots more about this, not the video overviews) and printed them from Photoshop and the Epson print software Ive no concerns whatsoever for the 900 or 700 I haven't printed in 8 years now and I would have LOVED to have been printing during my C19 break.
Nothing but complaints or praises. For a list of Epson Connect enabled printers and compatible devices and apps, visit www.epson.com/connect, 3 Roll media handling is standard on SureColor P700; optional on SureColor P900, Register for our newsletter of photography that refines you. Since 1997, Digital Photo is the premier how-to resource for photographers of all skill levels who want to make better images and get more out of their photo experiences.
If you do plan to print frequently, then you would be wise to factor in the monthly cost of replacing Epson ink cartridges and buying print paper, both of which are significant.
Wednesday, 22 April 2020 at 06:36 PM. UltraChrome PRO10 Ink
Saturday, 25 April 2020 at 06:52 AM, (To see all the comments, click on the "Comments" link below. And, I have had no problems with r3000 prints fading, as far as I can see. Great quality.
I was one of the last HP B9180 hold outs that I loved but had stripped down twice and had one carriage stall too many.
While it's clearly a modified advertisement, it's worth the watch. My only experience with Epson, many years ago, was an experience of clogged heads and frustration. I was disappointed that this happened, but the timing of the announcement of the new 700 was good, I had not yet bought a new printer. I used Epson photo inkjets for many years, including a lengthy stint with the P600.
Posted by: The only drawback is you have mix the inks yourself and fill reusable cartridges.
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And its just in time as many photographers are looking for ways to use their time wisely and creatively during extended stays at home during social distancing to reduce the risk of Coronavirus. That printer paid for itself with print sales and lasted for seven years, when the black channel started to leak and I replaced it with a 3880 in 2014. I started with a HP Z3100, then in 2015, I bought a used Epson 7900. In short, I feel as though I am on the upward edge of various learning curves every day. But when you go above $2,000, youll also find a number of powerful, big and pricey large-format printers, which could also be called single-function printers, since they focus on just thatprinting large high quality images.
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You can read more than you could ever want on his site: https://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/, You can also read about my own experiences as a complete carbon pigment beginner here: http://whisperingcat.co.uk/wp/article/printing-bw-with-a-dedicated-printer-and-monochrome-inkset/. And in between there was (is) an Epson flatbed scanner which I had to exchange because of defects out of the box. Theyre not revisions but a complete re-engineering and revisioning of this technology.. Where I live, the Epson representative is a total disaster. For precise exposures that best capture a scenes dynamic range, ignore what the image preview looks like and rely on the histogram. Thursday, 23 April 2020 at 08:12 AM.
--Mike], Posted by: For people like me, this is a deal breaker.
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