I eliminated the LSPV on my 83. Check the Brakes chapter of the factory service manual - there's a section on the load sensing proportioning valve (LSPV) that gives some troubleshooting help. Ok I understand that if the LSPV is bad I wont have rear brakes but I dont understand why the truck no longer has front brakes either. Weird. I screwed it back in till it stopped coming out, but now I can only go in just a little bit before it feels like it hits something. I have only owned limited models 96 & 01 both ABS, have looked at all in the yards never seen this on a Runner. N$J)$C6C{H `}PB+M}C_}fx$7uB!a7_@ {y:%5 4D3%gXg/~$NWlUKp?ki_XaBc4["C_ a:Dgf(b1v 44 @N OA$\d}JD> H'DGa_ \7a'A T aE00K/`ccK&CfP0`!TLpvjl0h` |a8we,B(Cel9 6 TaFJ*wkQ-Q6L!gL}"D($T _eq!d6Py=Z@Zf` !D/Q5 iuN'p f`0:7 QkTL7aBDDC+j 1!p}A} @x[_ A6J.]cV}`_C:B6AV\eG[A 4a-";5eaI0 DM2H DpFM=xek0IIh>T Xd2Za_Fv vA^Oc^$dbDt>YK|2'# "pMHa0iM4i :jF?v&NM5^}=S%. JavaScript is disabled. This makes me think that there ought to be some way to really dial in the amount of proportioningshort of going more and more on the nuts and then panic breaking over and over until the back end locks up first (which would be really unsafe), and then backing the nuts up some, how can you really fine tune this? 2o"aAL)^.3FR'D rs@QT9@es`]Z(DC. /Length 26541 Load sensing proportioning valve. What is this thing? DMm*D]DGg$K:/hR:`h+O b[^p.x3} oA3|+Ft!/AA {! ''HyI @/|zA cbk proportioning sensing cruiser 4runner fixs hilux brake valve load toyota land When you install a lift you will not only change the height but also that relationship of the spring sag to valve. AqHrvB9&X xS"lV{Vh-9#&Q5 Depends on how much shortening is required (which would be determined by the difference in spring rates between stock and aftermarket). proportioning 1 0 obj If you lift the truck you have to move the top nut on the LSPV up, then move the rod and the lower "lock nut" up under it to lock it in the higher location. toyotanation.com is not in any way affiliated with Toyota Motor Corporation. I wonder if something similar is necessary for coil sprung vehicles like ours? proportioning 4runner 1986 fits >> For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly. /Filter /CCITTFaxDecode /Width 2200 Changing the length of the curved rod (Load Sending Spring Assembly) will alter the rate of change of proportioning. Can some one explain how the LSPV works or tell me where I can get a picture that has details on how the LSPV is suppose to work. Finally got around to adjusting my LSPV last night after putting on the OME 850/863 lift with 1" Mr. Gasket spacers up front -- several months ago, '01 Taco DCab 4x4 TRD, OME 881s & 1" spacer, ARB Bullbar, Demello sliders, CBI Offroad rear tube bumper, Skid Row t/c skid, e-locker skid, 16" black steel Wheeler's, Revos | KE5CCC Amateur Radio, [quote author=Doc link=board=2;threadid=16351;start=msg156937#msg156937 date=1084548436]. /ImageMask true My rig is non-ABS and has one too. 1972 C2500 long bed, 2005 Odyssey, 2008 Tundra double cab. If further shortening is required than can be accomadated by the shackle pivoting, then extending the existing shackle bracket that mounts to the axle would be the simplist approach to accomadating a shorter load sensing spring. Can't believe I've never noticed it before. /Name /Im1

The shackle mounted to the axle bracket pivots, so the arm can be shortened quite a bit with out moving any mounts. Content on toyotanation.com is generated by its users. /BitsPerComponent 1 Thanks. That would mean relocating the valve, correct. One more question, the bleeder for the LSPV is back near the frame correct? If not, try bleeding with the wheels on the ground before attempting to adjust the LSPV. Oh yeah, the adjustment is the long threaded bolt down on the axle. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. % Thanks. $400 for a little valve assembly ouch. I always bleed it as the last step of the process. The shorter the length, the higher the rate of change. [SOLVED - Load Sensing Proportioning Valve], Toyota 4Runner Forum - Largest 4Runner Forum, Classifieds - buy & sell (no commercial ads please), Engines / Suspension / Wheels / Tires / Audio / Accessories, European T4R & Hilux Surf Clubs (click to view), Asia & Oceania T4R & Hilux Surf Clubs (click to view), Africa & Middle East T4R & Hilux Surf Clubs (click to view), Latin America / Carribbean T4R & Hilux Surf Clubs (click to view), 1999 4Runner 3RZ/W59/4WD - "Not enough light bars to go four-wheeling! OK, I tried wiggling the lever arm to try to get it to work, and it didn't work, so I tried to loosen that little screw with the nipple on the end to se if that was blocking the flow of the fluid, and I went a litle too far and brake fluid started squirting out. They have been on every tacoma I have seen. So best you could do is get something aceptable. Recent install of DRLs/white LEDs in your ARB's amber blinker. I know this is an old post but I thought I would revive it instead of starting a new one. It adjusts how much fluid pressure goes to the rear brakes based off the load on the rear of the vehicle. I tied it up permanently on my 84 years ago.

JavaScript is disabled. What is this thing? That will be a $75 diagnostic fee please! I didn't take it all the way out, I took it out just enough for the brake fluid to come out of it. Classifieds - Engine/Transmission/Transfer Case, BJ42 | FJ43 | BJ44 | FJ45 | FJ45LV | HJ47, North American Clubhouses - Central Region, CA.AB- Rocky Mountain Land Cruiser Association, CO/WY- Horsetooth 4 Wheelers Cruiser Club, TX- Lone Star Land Cruisers - Austin Chapter, TX- The White Trash of the Elwood Chapter, CA.BC- Okanagan-Similkameen Land Cruisers, NV- Battle Born Cruisers of Northern Nevada, Vendors: Accessories - Electronics - Recovery, http://www.lcool.org/technical/80_series/brake.html. And I've owned a 98, 99 and 02. Is this a problem? Taking it all the way out may have let air into the system.

ToyotaNation Forum is a community dedicated to all Toyota models. You must log in or register to reply here. stream I have an 1987 Toyota Pickup, 22R Engine and have recently redone the back/drum brakes. Less drop would mean less compensation. Dirty fingernails doesn't make you a man, missing fingernailsthat might do it. Any thoughts? I'll remember this when I lift! Come discuss the Camry, Tacoma, Highlander, 4Runner, Rav4 and more! Stiffer springs would mean less drop with identical added weight. You were attempting to bleed the brakes with the rear wheels on the ground correct? I know it can go in further, because the screw in clean for about a half inch, then the rest it covered in brake and exaust gunk. That little nipple is the bleed screw.

LSPV at the bleeder but nothing at the rear brakes.

This seems to be the free, and perhaps very effective way, to get the most out of the brakes? You might want to consider biasing the pressure a little heavy to the rear so you won't fall short in breaking when loaded. It is the length of the load sensing spring, or more precisely, the distance between the two pivot points that determines the rate of change of the valve opening when the rear of the truck moves up or down. ", Load Sensing Proportioning and Bypass Valve, wtb: Load sensing and brake protioning valve. Location: north east of Fairbank out there in the frontiers Alaska, I have not seen one befrore.thankfully.one less thing to bleed or worry about with my brakes.

You can bleed that little guy along with your brakes. I bought a used LSPV from the junk yard and I still cant get any fluid at the back bleeders. When the load is higher, I believe it will allow more fluid pressure to the rear brakes to increase the braking power.

Never have seen one on a 4Runner. Google 1993 toyota pickup service manual if you don't have an fsm. So a certain amout of weight will give a certain amount of sag in the springs. /Type /XObject

How can that be Rich? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. (The 93 valve is either the same or nearly the same as on your 87.) If you can't get your LSPV going, I'd get one from the junkyard. %PDF-1.2 <<

So the right length of the spring arm (which would be shorter than stock) would compensate for the stiffer springs. My Rocky Mountain Mojo Mobile! When the load is lighter, it doesn't allow as much fluid pressure to decrease the amount of of braking force to the rear tires to prevent locking of the rear wheels. APo $Ay!WH @0xrD Yes, very much so- thanks. /K -1 /Columns 2200>> LSPV. Becasue the new springs will sag less/weight. Whoa, I've never seen one of those before. /Height 3241 Having brake issues on a 2000 4runner. Maybe it was something they put on a tow package. ?A P$ 4 10.5psi boooost!

The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo, Camry 3rd and 4th Gen '92-'01, Solara '99-'03, Camry 5th and 6th Gen '02-'11, Solara '04-'08, Corolla 10th Gen/2nd Gen Matrix (2009-2013), VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada, toyotanation.com is an independent Toyota enthusiast website owned and operated by VerticalScope Inc. It has a bleeder screw and seems to be attached to a brake line. The valve is tuned to the original spring rate. If you have ABS, you do not have one. Do you know if this valve can cause a hard brake pedal if the piston locks up somehow? Here's a pretty good explanation with pictures: I've mentioned this before so for those who have read it, sorry. Models without ABS had a LSPV. 97 FZJ80, Locked & Loaded, Safari Turbo, Safari Intercooler, 3" Ceramic Coated Custom Exhaust, Ron Davis Racing Radiator, Old Man Emu Heavy Duty 2.5" Suspension System, DBA Slotted Rotors, 33" Revos, ARB Front Bumper, Center Diff Switch, Slee Stuff: Roof Rack, Rear Bumper, Step Sliders, Skid Plates, SS Brake Lines, Double Cardan Drive Shaft. /DecodeParms << You'll never get it back to factory unless you went back to the stock springs. [quote author=corbs link=board=2;threadid=16351;start=msg156962#msg156962 date=1084549224], [quote author=Outback link=board=2;threadid=16351;start=msg156911#msg156911 date=1084547290]. Thanks fourwd, I'll give that a shot when I get home. With a shorter spring arm, there is greater angular change at the valve per unit change in distance between the body and the axle. /Subtype /Image

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